The Epitome of Sad Dog Training

I really hate this video. It’s the epitome of sad dog training.

It raises my hackles and turns my stomach every time I watch it.

And, unfortunately, it comes up on my Facebook and other social media feeds far too often.

Most people think this is an amazing video of 5 really well trained dogs.

But I see 5 dogs who are on electric collars, who are simply terrified to make a mistake and incur the pain of the shock.

It is almost painful for me to watch, each and every time.

All of their tails are down.

Their behavior to stay touching him seems almost frantic.

They are afraid to even look up when spoken to.

The one on the outside with the long antenna on his collar, consistently looks panicked as he tries to look around.

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Sadly, I rarely see this man kindly touch or praise these dogs for a job well done.

He doesn’t recognize when they remain obedient in the face of obstacles or other distractions; he acts like they just should do what he is asking.

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At about 2:38/9 he even knees the outside right dog in the head to move him away.

At minute 4:22 you can see the dog on the outside left look up to and sniff an on coming passerby who immediately says “Hi” to the dog; which clearly brings a stiff shock from the handler.  You can almost feel the dog wince in pain as he shuffles back in line (yes, folks, electric shock collars hurt there is your proof).

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I swear all the other dogs even wince because they know what is happening.

The down command is filled with conflict from all the dogs.  They are moving out of the way of each other as fast as they can with ears pinned because they are afraid if they don’t drop fast enough they will be shocked.

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It is so sad.

And the way they spring back into place, ears pinned and tails tucked makes me sick.

The Last Time

The last time I saw this posted on a friends media page, I pointed out how sad I thought this video was and what a shame that these beautiful dogs were being treated like this and another dog trainer popped on and said that   “Most people are too dumb to use positive motivational methods but can be taught to use electric shock collars fairly effectively.”

“At least these dogs are out and about”, he said.

I was shocked.

I mentioned that I work with people all the time who are smart enough to understand positive and motivational methods, and they too can and do take their dogs out. Watch these videos to see just what I mean.

Let’s show him that we positive reinforcement trainers aren’t dumb!

I think trainers like this are just lazy!

Yes, I will admit that positive and motivational techniques take a smidgeon more time, understanding and timing but it is certainly achievable.

And, I was able to show the video of the little boy working and training his naked (no collar or harness) Malinois with just a toy.

The dog is totally happy, tail up and joyous throughout the WHOLE VIDEO; the way that it should be!

Keep your eyes out for my break down of that video!

 

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Comments

  1. Janet Igo says:

    The first time I saw the video, it was on a friends FaceBook page and I commented that the man was using shock collars and the friend came back with, “Oh no, he has just trained them really well!” After pointing out just what you had also seen, the antenna on the outside dogs collar, they still did not get it. I absolutely hate shock collars, the same as I do those fences that shock them! Proper training and positive reinforcement goes a long way in getting them to do what you want.

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  2. Charlene says:

    I can’t even bring myself to watch the video! The thought that someone would treat their dog like this makes me want to cry. I’ll never understand.

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  3. peggy says:

    this sob should not have those beautiful, intelligent creatures. first, arrest, shock collar him, make him sit in the cold, and if he make even the slightest move SHOCK THE SH-T OUT OF HIM!!!!!!!

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  4. Patty Chadwick says:

    That cruel, stupid SOB should be forced to wear one for at least a month!!!

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  5. Rene Jansen says:

    Dogs seemed terrified to even look anywhere else, sticking close together out of fear, even the human does not look happy. Dogs lay & stay keeping eyes on walker, all 5 of them. That’s not training dogs, it’s slaving them.
    The point of a walk, albeit not on a public roadway, is to let them run & play with each other and do their business.
    These dogs should be rescued.

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  6. Cynthia Jones says:

    I hate seeing people mistreat poor defenseless animals. I wish our laws were stricter about this kind of thing, That person should be arrested, fined and do some jail time with a shock collar on. Shock collars should be illegal.

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  7. Kathy says:

    We have 2 dogs that jump over our fence. We gave even raised the fence up higher but they still insist on getting out. Any suggestions? Our next step was thinking if putting up. Electric fence so they can’t get out. They will be gone fir hours and I am afraud they will get hurt I’d kill someone’s chickens. We are in the country. They do have GOS collRs on them and sometimes we can find them but if they are on private property it is impossible.any suggestions besides a electric fence?

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  8. kat says:

    Would you ever use a shock collar on your child? No way!! Well, you shouldn’t on your dog either!!!! Dogs ARE your best friend! Would you use a shock collar on your best friend? Dogs respond to kindness and attention, and “Well Done”!
    My ex used to drop kick his dog to get it’s attention. I could never get him to stop, maybe I should have used a shock collar on him, eh?
    These are inhumane treatments of your beloved dogs. People WAKE UP!!!

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  9. GILLIAN BROCKBANK says:

    These collars should be banned. Any training that involves hurting the animal in order to “obey” your commands is wrong. In my opinion that scum walking the dogs doesn’t love his animals or he wouldn’t use this method of training. He needs those dogs taking off him and he should be made to wear an electric collar.

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  10. Can’t look at the video just reading your commentary of it broke my heart. My Shih Tzu is not perfect but I would never want to break her spirit. I am so proud of her accomplishments..She can add and subtract by barking it out, That blows my mind. I would NEVER allow any form of punishment so harsh, my heart go out to those poor dogs.

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  11. Maria Gomez says:

    Why does this guy gets away with this I do not understand. Where are the people with guts to speak up for tbese dogs on tbeir behalf. They need a voice, someone to speak for them and the misery they are suffering with this evil scummy guy. Where is justice? How hard and cold have some hearts grown.

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  12. Shock collars should be outlawed They have. No place in training our dogs.

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  13. Gwen says:

    Right from the very start of the video, I was crying. To be so cruel to such a beautiful bunch of dogs….not just beautiful on the outside either…is more than sad. Why do people think that is obedience, it’s not, you can’t even call it submission. Dogs accept every thing without question, we should give only love.

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  14. Debbie Annas says:

    Maybe he is just a dog walker and really doesn’t care; it’s just a job and a paycheck. WRONG!!! if you want to have this job you should at least be an animal lover

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  15. trish says:

    He’s not just a dog walker he’s a ‘breeder and trainer’ who hs had many complaints and issues with the dogs he breeds and sells. Despite this and several other videos of him mistreating his dogs he will claim he is unfairly judged and that he ‘loves’ all his dogs. He uses videos such as these to prove how ‘connected’ he is to his dogs and to promote his training business!

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  16. I used a shock collar on my dog for awhile, I did more harm than good. I will never use one again.

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  17. mattie says:

    God sees all and all evil people WILL PAY for there wrong doing in life. I have a 6 month shih tzu and i could not imagine hitting her . I treat her like i gave birth to her. I take her every where with me . I had her since she was 8 weeks old and i potty trained her myself . No beating her just showing her each time where to potty. It took me 1 week and she was like gold. All dogs are very smart creatures God created. There are just so many evil people in this world and us good people should just pray for that man in the video and pray for the dogs that God will protect them and give them strength against that evil man . God bless yall.

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  18. Bud Savoie says:

    I’ve never used a shock collar, although I know many who do. My dogs are bird dogs (Brittanys), so most of my training has to do with their finding and pointing birds–both of my dogs have won ribbons in trials. You should know that the collar is usually tuned so low as not actually to shock, but rather to nudge the dog (so I have heard and read from professional trainers). I have always used praise, petting, and play periods to train, and the system works for me. I should add that in my opinion, using “treats” (which I call “bribes”) are as bad a system as shock collars. Many years ago I read in a book by a German trainer that “you cannot train a dog through his skin or his stomach,” advice I have always followed.

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  19. Betsy Richardson says:

    Shock collars should never be used for everyday training. But they can save a dog’s life in certain situations. We live in a rural area. The law here is the death penalty for a dog that chases or kills livestock, even a single chicken. More than one reported offense, and the county requires the dog be put down! Usually it only takes one or two shocks to stop this behavior forever.

    One of our neighbors has several horses and uses an electric fence. Our dog got zapped once and that was all it took to keep him out of her pasture. Not that our dog chases anything. He loves the horses and is friends with cats, goats, cows, other dogs, and people. He doesn’t chase cars. All the dogs living along our rural road are free. As long as they don’t behave badly they have the run of the territory. However, we live a quarter of a mile from a busy highway. It is separated from our properties by a creek with a bridge over it. A couple of our neighbor’s dogs decided to cross the bridge, and one of them was killed by a semi truck. The neighbor decided to use the electric collar to train the remaining dog not to go across the bridge. It only took three times and she does not cross it anymore.
    I would rather have my dog get three mild jolts from a collar than get crushed by a semi truck! Thankfully my dog has never had to wear one of those collars. But I would make him wear one if it saved his life. Also, my neighbor’s dog does not associate her with the correction she received from the collar. She doesn’t fear her owner. She fears the bridge and her life is no longer at risk.

    The man who repaired our RV has a beautiful Visla in his shop. He is very strict with his dog, trained to absolute obedience with the constant use of a shock collar. Like the dogs in the video, the dog is fearful and cowed and has burn scars on his neck from the collar. The man was quite pumped that he could order the dog to instantly do whatever he wanted. I told him I thought his method was cruel and he tried to justify it because of the great results he got. However, I could clearly see that the biggest result was that his dog didn’t love him and was terrified of him. His beautiful dog also had a broken spirit and was scarred for life, both physically and emotionally.
    I wouldn’t care how obedient my dog was if he couldn’t love me. I haven’t been back to the man’s shop since then because I was powerless to change the situation. I took my business elsewhere.

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    Minette Reply:

    That is why they make invisible fence.

    Invisible fencing stays the same and is reliable, shocking by a human is often not.

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  20. Anthony Nyaga says:

    German shepherds are working dogs. To see them treated this way in the name of training is obscene. This is not dog training, this is dog torture and cannot be allowed anywhere.

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  21. Denise says:

    They look scared. Heads are down, tails down, and all bunched up together. I would never, ever think of doing this to my dog. I hate prong and shock collars.

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  22. Karen says:

    I hate this video as well. I have never done anything mean to my little shitzu mix, but I have not trained her either. I am old and just happy that she loves me.

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  23. Marg says:

    Any tool is at the mercy of he/she who holds it. This video is a demonstration, however it’s not example of dogs following of their own free will (at least without the threat of discomfort). Tails and ears aside they would never walk this close to each other. I’m not a fan of electric collars for training. And to know how to use one with fairness and skill takes immaculate timing and consistency. The book on their correct use is 2 inches thick and I doubt most people using them haven’t bothered. As I read someone says…. “lets face it – if you have immaculate timing and consistency anyway then why would you need to use an electric collar?” I agree with you that folks are drawn to the idea of ‘a magical technique’ and will pay hand over fist to reduce the time it takes to train. I prefer my dog to want to be near me because she chooses to. I want to be seen an animal lover, not just an animal keeper. I always like to examine the reasons people use particular tools with their dogs and try not to be judgemental until I’ve spoken to them. The video does sadden me and wonder if the fellow will see the flip side of this coin in the way many of us do. Great to hear everyones take on it.

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  24. Deb says:

    It really does make me sick to my stomach to see this. I will make time for leash training. I need it as much as my dogs. Thanks for being you. Deb

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  25. Caroline says:

    I can’t even bear to look st this video once. Just the posts are sad. Good that so many dog lovers care

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  26. It seems like the perfect way to break a dog’s spirit. To have a dog with no spirit is like walking around town with a furry robot. People make me sick!!!Who is this moron? Maybe we can find the perfect human cattle prod to make him more well behaved.

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  27. Barb says:

    I feel so stupid. I never realized they were wearing shock collars….obviously didnt watch it closely. This IS disgusting. I tried a shock collar once with an unruly German shepherd. I will NEVER EVER use it again. I was horrified!! Not at just the response of the dog but that the collar was shocking her when it shouldn’t have. That collar hit the garbage so fast! As unruly as my dogs can get, I would never resort to such tactics again. I was ignorant. I no longer am.

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  28. Janet says:

    My opinion is that “E”collars are for the lazy dog handler. I have seen this practice done in my city amdand I continue to ask what is the point of making a dog stand atop a fire hydrant for long periods of time? The motto we use at our facility “no batteries required” we are primarily positive reinforcement and have been in business for many years. With a growing client base. This use of shock collars is just heartbreaking.

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  29. Steve says:

    Shock collars are only shock collars if used by the wrong person. And in this case they are shock collars. However they are electronic collars, never meant to be used like that. I have tried them on myself to try. The proper setting is the one where the dog just shows a sign of feeling it. Ears perk, slight movement of the head etc. Not to scare or cause any pain at all. It is a tool, no different than a collar. I have seen trainers abuse them myself but that is not the case with all!

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  30. Lynda Young says:

    Yes I also hate seeing this video , it’s just pure cruelty, he may as well have just kicked the dog ,but it’s a very deceitful way of inflicting physical punishment .

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  31. Phoenix says:

    I use the invisible fence – have to. The breed i have cannot be tethered nor will a regular fence contain them. It comes down to proper training – showing the puppy the boundaries and letting them understand what the tones mean, then once you’re certain they understand the boundary and the warning tones, then with the lowest setting (which is the same as touching a doorknob after shuffling across carpet – i know, i checked!) teach them what happens if they go past the warning tones. The difference between the fence corrections and an e-collar is that the fence is clear: they KNOW what will happen if they choose to go past the warning tones so it’s not a surprise to them, they understand fully why it happens and therefore they CHOOSE not to cross the boundary. They also understand that when the fence collars are off and the leashes are on that it is safe to cross. With a training e-collar, they can’t really choose to avoid a shock because they don’t know when it will come or what behaviour will bring it until after many shocks – i think that’s where the psychological damage (from their usage) comes from. I would never, ever, ever use one – even the bark collars i have for training out unnecessary barking don’t have a shock setting, they emit an ultrasonic tone after 5 seconds of barking which is perfect – that 5 seconds gives me the time to run out, see whether the stimilus is “bark-worthy” and, if not, deliver the quiet command at the same time they’re getting the tones.

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  32. Teresa Hall says:

    After reading your email and intro to.this video and then looking at still picture, I’m would not allow myself to watch video cause I would get upset(emotional) and then angry.So I am taking your word for it. I agree. My father in law once had a spaniel he loved , in his way, but because ge did not know how to communicate with a dog and assumed because our dog was,well trained and behaved well, understood our speaking with her,she was so very smart, he thought ALL dogs were naturally like that. And when his acted liked a normal dog, curious about surroundings,needing schooling in b right manner and desparately wanted to.please it’s master, this man bought a shock collar. We told him it was the wrong thing to do. But he was a very very stubborn man. Could not tell him anything. And so, yes, if that collar was on the dog,the dog would almost cause the man to.stumbe it tried to stay so close to keep.him fro m pressing the button. The poor thing shook if he just picked the collar up. Fortunately, the man never considered that batteries run down. I and his son would remove batteris and replace with duds. So.would his,wife if he mentioned it at home ever. The dog still stayed right with him but with no pain. The crazy man had it set non high for a cocker spaniel cause he did not understand anything. But,he loved that dog! When he passed away he was severely depressed and despondent for months. I had never known this man to get that way over anything. Always had that ‘I am always in total control’ attitude. That was his last dog. Fear and respect are close bed partners,but one does not make the other. Some people just don’t get it. These people should not have pets or kids. Period.

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  33. Ann says:

    I’ve watched other videos where he is training them on leash with rewards, where he is being affectionate where he is taking them all from leash and they’re wagging their tails. Perhaps there this video is not a true reglection of what’s happening. As far as I’ve seen electric collars do not have antennas.

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    Minette Reply:

    Rest assured those are shock collars. And you can be an abusive trainer and person and not be abusive 100% of the time or even 80% of the time… but this video doesn’t lie as to how these animals feel in this moment

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  34. Marie says:

    The dogs don’t even look happy. Leave me alone with that SOB for 5 minutes with a tazor and I wouldn’t wrap it around his neck. There is a training company in NV that only uses shock colors. I threw them out when I interviewed them. I wasn’t going to rescue my dog just to torture her some more. She’s extremely well behaved without using a collar – just love. Why don’t we have stricter laws. That guy needs someone to tell him he’s a wuss and knows nothing about animals.

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  35. Dave says:

    Would someone please give me this MF’s address? Obviously he doesn’t know what it feels like. I’ll be happy to show him.

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  36. Larty says:

    Where do I start? Like others, I cannot find myself to watch the video. I have a service dog who is also a GSD. Two points I want to make and I’m aware some will like like and some not! 1) I have a collar on my dog, however, I rarely, very rarely ever have to use it. The issue here is that this man walking these dogs is definitely abusive as shown by the body language of the animals. 2) However, these collars are a great asset providing the handler knows the correct way of utilizing them without harming the animal. And no, I’m not lazy as one person commented. I’m disabled and can’t physically do common things that others take for granted. All being said, my dog is very happy to please me, which is why I rarely have to utilize the device. I paid out of pocket for this service dog (very expensive) as he’s been trained for multiple disabilities which I have! Judging everyone who utilizes these collars based off one person and one video should not be an indication of abuse by responsible dog owners who utilize the device! Furthermore, the video should not be utilized as an advertisement to obtain clients! Treat training can be just as negative when not used correctly. Praise training doesn’t only makes your dog eager to please, but also will produce a closer bond between you and your dog! Happy Tails to you!

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    Minette Reply:

    I have trained literally dozens of service dogs and never have I had to place one with a shock collar. NEVER. They were all trained well enough to listen and not need corrections.

    And, other than some poor timing and a fat dog there isn’t too much that can go wrong with positive reinforcement training.

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  37. Lucy says:

    My neighbor’s Lab Smokey often spent a month at a time at my house when his owner was away. My dog, his brother, never chased anything, but Smokey would chase my horse. It bothered the horse and I was afraid Smokey would be kicked, stomped or bitten. Having tried various training methods, and getting nowhere, I finally bought a Citronella spray collar with a remote. With the collar set on full spray, I put it on Smokey, waited until he began to charge the horse, then hit the spray button. He got a snoot full of citronella, slammed on the brakes, then sat down to clean his face without taking his eyes off the horse. Smokey never again chased my horse; I never again used the collar.

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  38. Amoeba says:

    Build this jerk a dog house- stick him on a chain outside- and let em see what it’s like to be uncomfortable and waiting for a little TLC 👹Oh and every time he misbehaves shock em!! Animals cannot speak for themselves and feel pain as this jerk does

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  39. Annabel Grace says:

    I disagree. The play part should happen at the right place, not in the middle of the walk, especially if they are off leash as it can be very dangerous. When walking, all eyes should be on the walker and all ears listening for commands.
    I don’t agree with shock collars though

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    Minette Reply:

    wow, expecting a dog to go through a whole walk without reward or a game is an awfully long time. Just because my dogs play doesn’t make them or their training dangerous, it actually gives me more control

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  40. Gina Marie Kline says:

    I agree with MaryAnn. The shock collar’s should be against the law. This is nothing more than physical, emotional abuse to these German Shepherd’s. I have a German Shepherd. Duke Wayne. 6 months old now. No way will Duke Ever wear a shock collar. We begin school soon. He is doing great thanks to Chet. I am disabled, so Duke Wayne is to be my Service Dog. That’s why I have not been able to purchase Chet’s Video’s yet. But, I soon will. Thanks Chet. I appreciate your information. I want to kick that guys ass. Peace. Keep up the Great Work, Training Information.

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  41. There are reasons to train with a shock collar. Maybe they are in training for police work so that their focus is on him, not everyone walking down the street. He would also need immediate correction. Hunting dogs are also trained with shock collars as the trainers need to be able to correct and praise from a distance. I train with your approach and with a shock collar. My shock collars have 18 different levels of correction and a tone setting for correction and a praise recording of me.

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    Minette Reply:

    If you train appropriately with good communication, you don’t need a shock collar. I compete to protection/police type sports and you can’t use a shock collar.

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  42. Janette says:

    I didn’t know such things existed and I can’t watch, just reading the description has made me feel ill. I know animal cruelty exists, I just didn’t realise that this form had been invented 🙁

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  43. Jackie says:

    My thoughts, exactly. Can’t stand low life idiots him.Falls in line with animal abuse.

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  44. Linda says:

    I bought a bark collar for my little Yorkie. Didn’t realize the one I got was for a big dog. We took her camping with us. An they didn’t allow any barking their. My neighbor camped next to us. The first time she barked it scared her so Bad that she done a back flip e times. The neighbor was laughing. His butt off.. It scared me as bad as it did pixie. I started crying. I thought she was going to die. I took it off her and cut the collar ends off and took it back to the store. Told them they could have it back that I thought it had Killed my little Yorkie. Every time I think about it I want to cry.
    They need to put one around his neck and see how he likes being shocked.

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  45. Marla Woods says:

    Pure animal abuse. Shock collars need to be outlawed. “Trained” dogs??? NO! THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH DOGS!!!

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  46. Linda says:

    I cannot even watch this video as I cannot tolerate this kind of abuse!! If you feel you need a shock collar to train your dog then you shouldn’t even have a dog. That is pure fright😓

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  47. Molly Legge says:

    “Oh well”??? No, let´s not just slough this off…this is animal abuse and needs to be addressed, the public needs to be educated, and owners who use these cruel methods should be punished. “oh well” sounds like someone who just does not care….do you not care about animals, and if not, why are you reading and making such uncaring comments?

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  48. Maureen says:

    Sad sad sad and very very cruel. Can he not be approached by animal welfare or something. That treatment shouldn’t be allowed to happen. Those poor dogs are beautiful i have a big soft sopt for German Shepherds as having owned them in the past. Such a beautiful breed and so smart why do police use them because they learn easy. I knew by their tails something wasn’t right and them huddled so close together its heart breaking and that guy just thinks he’s the bee’s knees too more fool him he’s a low life and doesnt deserve to have those 5 beauties. Please stop that viciously cruel act NOW.

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  49. Mili says:

    he must need more attention from you, more stimulation in his own yard and more training with the stay, no, good boy voices from you, PLUS LOTS! of loving actions and ‘good boys’ from your whole family.

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  50. Me either. Thanks Chet for bringing to our attention, but I couldn’t bear to watch it. I hate hearing about the way people treat their most loyal friend or other animals. Sadly, I hear more stories of cruelty to dogs more than cats, but our RSPCA shows stories on the TV about neglect of farm animals and horses, which are just horrific.

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  51. I agree this video was,disturbing.
    Hurting animals is wrong.
    Any animal horse, cats etc.

    Peoplw,can be so cruel.
    Look at how they treat each other.

    Animals need to be loved and respected.

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