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Where are these numbers coming from? I think it’s a really low blow to villainize pit bulls like that.
Chet Reply:August 22nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
We have linked to our source info. Sorry that was not included in the original blog post.
Julie Duray Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 6:59 am
I tried to find where this came from. This is a lie. Pits are wonderful dogs. That is why I own one is because they are so great with children. I do hope you are looking at this as way to defend the breed and not attack it.
Ariana Norberg Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 10:33 am
I love pit bulls they are of my favorite breeds. I had a pit bull/lab mix and she was the best dog i ever had. These people really need to consider all the nice pit bulls in the world, not the mean ones. Its really sad cause have the dogs you see in shelters are pitbulls just because people tell these visious rumors. Yes she bit, but only play biting, so it was harmless, you may be thinking: Oh the lab in her mellowed the dog out.
Well you are wronge they are a loveable breed and one of the most loyal breeds and if they attack you, it must be your fault for ticking them off. I love my doggie, Lexy, she was the best dog i ever had.
Have you ever seen dog fights or seen people train there dogs to attack people???? Well theres your explanation. God did not create pit bulls to be mean he made them for our campanion.
If a dog did attack did it ever occur to you that he loved his owner so much that he was trying to protect them?????
I hope this changes your minds about pit bulls
Mike Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Google “Pacifica Pitbull Attack”
The pregnant owner of a loveable pitbull was killed
David Reply:August 29th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to June 25, 2010
Breed Bodily harm Child Victims Adult Victims Deaths Maimings % of dog population
Pit bull terrier 1552 691 529 166 859 .041
Rottweiler 457 262 118 73 246 .009
Husky 56 36 4 21 14 .081
Wolf hybrid 82 68 4 19 46 .003
Bullmastiff (Presa canario) 58 22 21 9 31 .013
German shepherd 79 52 20 9 50 .018
German shepherd-mix 37 26 8 7 24
Chow 53 35 15 7 35 .016
Pit bull-mix 102 44 21 7 51
Doberman 14 8 6 6 7 .008
Dawn Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 9:50 am
The facts are what they are. The statistics don’t show Golden Retrievers attacking and mauling people as a general rule. The same cannot be said for Pit Bulls. It is the nature of the animal. Not all Pits will hurt people, and sometimes a Golden will bite someone. But overall, Pit Bulls will be the dog that attacks and not just bites someone, but seriously mauls or kills someone’s pet or a person.
Nikki Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
NO MORE DEADLY THAN golden retrievers, beagles and other lovable breeds- in a recent study of 122 dog breeds done by the American temperament testing society Pitbulls actually achieved a high passing rate Of 83.9%. this is higher than beagles at 78.2% and golden retrievers at 83.2%!!! It is not about the breed, it’s about the owner! If you take the time to research or truly interact with the breed before blindly believing the media, you would understand this. Have you read ‘The Lost Dogs’ by Jim Gorant? My guess is No, but I highly recommend it. It speaks of michael vick’s dogs from Bad News kennels where pitbulls and Pitbull type dogs were trained and bred to fight from day one. However, it also speaks of how nearly ALL of these dogs have been rehabilitated (only one female who was bred to no end was destroyed due to aggression). One of my favorite being Jonny Justice, actually went on to be a Therapy dog that now helps children read. One is a police dog, one goes to the hospital to visit cancer patients! Not such a dangerous breed if you ask me! If people would get the facts and actually understood the breed before making accusations we have this problem. The true problem is irresponsible owners and it doesn’t matter what dog they own. Do your research, learn, and at the very least watch the Dog Whisperer !!!
Ps pitbulls jaws do NOT lock, there is no locking mechanism in their jaw. Ask any vet. Info in this post gotten from badrap.org and atts.org
sara garcia Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 11:37 am
What was the point of this post? You will probably cause the death of many innocent dogs in shelters as many are pitbulls and pitbull X and prospective owners will be deterred My pit was born into my hands–I rescued her mother already pregnant. Three years later, she is spayed and sweet and playful. There are so many misconceptions about pitbulls. Instead of sensationalizing these horribly tragic events, you could use your website as a place to educate positively about this breed
Anne Reply:August 27th, 2011 at 10:07 am
I totally agree with you.
This post does absolutelty nothing to help dogs. I am reading throught the comments and people are becoming aggressive and irrational themselves – making blanket statments!!!! I suppose anyone could google and find aggressive behaviour by any breed.
I have lost a lot of respect for this site and I will probably no longer read it.
I find it highly irresponsible for a trainer to post this type of questionable information.
What exactly was the purpose of this post?
Media loves to incite and people just lap it up and that has caused a great problem for the pitbull or another breed that is targeted.
Vince Reply:August 29th, 2011 at 5:35 am
My Grandpa once told me that it all depends on how you bring up you dog as to how it will be around people and other dogs… Pitt Bulls get a bad reputation becasue of all the people out there whos fail to properly train their dog and abuse them as well. Not socialzing your dog with other people and other dogs is not a good thing!!!!! People need ti understand that they need to teach their dog to love and not hurt!!!
Natalie Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 7:07 am
There are many well-trained pit bulls out there, but the the truth of the matter is that MANY do bite and when they do, it is severe and often deadly. It is irresponsible for owners to assume that their pit bull is harmless when they have been shown over and over to be a breed that bites more than other breed for whatever reason. I have felt the hot breath of a pit bull on my cheek paired with chilling and nasty snarl over a fence while simply walking down the side walk. Of course, the owner assured me that the pit bull was actually “very nice.” My cousin has also had to get multiple reconstructive surgeries on his face due to the bite of this breed. He was sitting on a couch next to a neighbor’s dog he had known for years. This dog was also “a gentle dog.” Let’s stop villainizing humans for being appropriately careful when speaking of an animal who simply needs to be approached with some degree of wariness.
rcj Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 7:19 am
You don’t have to villainize them. They do that nicely on their own.
Anne Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I have more than one friend that owns pitbulls and their dogs are lovely. One friend owns 5 pitbulls, on a horse farm and they are perfectly fine snf actually wonderful dogs.
Most of the pitbulls from the Mickael vicks dog fighting ring can be rehabilitated and some even gone on the be therapy dogs, Ask DogTown.
I am very much against any kind of breed specific banning and it is just this type of comment that encourages fear reactions.
I would hope that one would have the sense to be careful approaching any strange dog.
I have noticed many dogs barking and creating a fuss if one passes their property. Is this just a pitbull thing??
rcj Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
I did not say anything about “dogs barking and creating a fuss”. That is a territorial issue. Some dogs are more territorial than others.
I’m sure some pit bulls can be okay. I’m just not surprised with the statistics that the article stated about pitbulls being the breed that attacks most. I myself own German Shepherds. They also “can” be aggressive, I am aware of this and have taken precations to secure my property, train my dogs and supervise their interactions with others.
You have hopes and beliefs. Where is the science to back those up?
Aggression. is. genetic. Proven. (See the Russian Blue Fox experiment — ongoing for 50 years).
Scarlette-pitty Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
In reference to your comment earlier about the proof ..or the science behind her statement or all the others that have decided to stick up for a breed that just needs to be more understood! I’m thankful that there are people out there that are standing up for this breed. Yes ..German Shepherds are well know for being very protective ..i’m sure everyone around you are glad that you’ve taken the steps to keep your dogs under control. Some owners don’t do that ..how is that the breeds fault?!?! The saying ..your only as strong as your weakest link? Dogs are a very small link ..in a much bigger chain(society)! Owners ..not breed!!! The info you requested earlier ..
American Temperament Testing Society-ATTS:
Pit bulls 86.4% ..German Shepherds 84.4% ..PASSED!
Scarlette-pitty Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Some of the statics I don’t know bout ..others i’m so calling B.F.S ..I want to scream it from the roof tops! So your sayin’ ..that 960 A DAY go to the emergency room for a dog bite?! Hell for sh*ts and giggles ..id like to find out from each ER what kinda dog bit them?! Then I want to know ..how many were playing w the dog and accidently got bit? How many were kids that came up to a the dog assuming(ass out of you and me) the dog was jus going to be friendly to anyone? How many were people/kids that either startled the dog awake/was messing w the dog then eventually got bit?! How many kids that teased the dog on the way to school and on the way back home ..thou not good ..but the dog happened to get out(in other words tortured)? When those answers come to light ..then people can start talking bout breeds! Until then ..minus one or 2 ..if you the day(any breed) you to mite even take a nip at someone to!
Mike Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Read the newspapers
PregnantPacifica woman killed by her own pitbull
Karleen Reply:August 28th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Dogs don’t kill their owners unless there is a reason behind it – no training, no “pack leadership”, abuse, no socializing, some physical problem. I don’t know what was behind this killing, but I can guarantee it was one of the above.
Susan Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Dogs are bred for a certain purpose. Pit bulls are bred to kill.
caro Reply:August 27th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
All dogs where bred to kill, all dogs can kill, all dogs enjoy hunting and killing, its fun for them. I don´t believe in dangerous dog stuff, all dogs can be dangerous in a given situation. It´s not just the dog or the owner, what really determines danger is: bad character genetics, good manners and education given(or not) to the dog and not realizing when a situation can stress the dog out and cause him/her to attack.
That´s why its important to know your dog as well as yourself.
Susanne Reply:August 27th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Chet said up front he was not intending this post as a focus on any breed. I’ve met some really sweet pits and even fell in love with one of the many, many stray pit bulls I’ve picked up off the street and out of my own back yard. The reason they are probably so high on this chart is that the majority of people who buy these dogs get them to breed, to ‘guard’ their homes and to sell or give away to family. With that kind of focus the owners I’ve encountered don’t ever really focus on training. The dogs I have found are starving for both food and attention. Unaltered males, left to fend for themselves will undoubtedly have problems. I live just outside Houston, Tx. It is the highest rated city on that map.
Jeanna Darby Reply:September 13th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
It is very sad indeed that whenever there is a Pitt Bull attack, or whenever the breed is mentioned, or statistics given, the Pitt Bulls lovers get on the defensive, and go into automatic denial. The truth being told, it is not the dog at all, but the unscrupulous owners who use these animals for the wrong reasons, and train them to fight, kill, and maim. It is very heart breaking to one who loves the breed to hear the report on them. However, the truth is that the Pitt Bull is the weapon of choice of drug dealers, gang members, and those who engage in criminal activities. All dogs love to please, and if they are trained to kill, they will. Until something is done about these unscrupulous owners, the good ones will have to face the reality that you cannot just allow children to die, other animals attacked etc. Although by nature Pitt Bulls might be gentle animals, we see time,and time again what can happen to an animal in the wrong hands, and the Pitt Bull unfortunately, has been turned into a lethal weapon.
Who/what is the source of these statistics?
I do not believe them for a minute. I know for a fact that the #1 dog that leads in human bites/attacks is the Golden Retriever. Simply because there are more of them than any other breed.
Pit bulls Do Not attack humans. I have had pit bulls all my life and they absolutely LOVE people.
People who are bitten by pitbulls (as with most other dogs too) usually are bitten because they try to grab the dog and the dog bites in fear.
As you should know, pit bulls are “nanny dogs” in England because they are so good with children and protective of them.
Please be careful before you spread rumors without checking the source of the information.
Chet Reply:August 22nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
We are citing statistics we have found. We should have had them listed when the blog was originally posted but we forgot. The links to the sources of the info are now there.
Adie Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 1:48 am
Even if you’re sceptical and decide to halve the numbers, it’s a worry that there are so many attacks. People should really be put through some home testing before they get a dog. All of the above is preventable!
Leslie Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 6:53 am
Where are these links specifically?
Mark Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 8:30 am
My comment is defending the Pit Bull or “pit bull type”. The site Dogbites.org where the stats are from is a very biased group. They have done research, which seems to be confined to negatively portay 1 breed. They really don’t say much about other breeds.
I am sure YOU know that no dog is born dangerous although some could have aggressive tendencies. No dog is born to fight or attack humans although some (terriers) are born with a tendency to prey on “small furry animals”. A good dog owner will train their dog in a positive fashion, teaching the dog its place in the pack. I have had dogs all my life, different breeds, and NEVER had an aggessive(mean or dangerous)dog. I currently have 2 Pitt Bulls and they are very sweet loving animals. They are lap dogs, as any Pitt Bull owner will tell you.
I do know that some people can’t handle a stong willed, tenacious, tpye of personality intheir dogs, but with the proper training, they are wonderful, not dangerous dogs.
The other site, Dog Bite Law Center, is written by a Law firm seeking to find new prospective clients.
Lastly, you have a typical government propaganda website designed to specifically generate fear.
Barbara Cagle Reply:August 27th, 2011 at 10:33 am
I have a lab/pitt bull and she does not like small dogs.
She is currently being trained and the trainer suggested
for me take her to a dog park and walk her around so she
would become familiar with the dogs. She was so aggressive
when she saw them. She did attack a smaller dog when I turned my back on her at a dog park. I am worried about her aggression as I have a Down Syndrome son and I do not want him getting hurt. Most of the time he is in his room
listening to his music. The dog is always with me in the
house. I want to give her to a good home but can not locate an animal rescue for her. She is seven months and just came out of her first heat. 🙁 Can you suggest any place to call as I want to place her in a good home. She
lovable with me and stays by my side 3/4 of the time in the house. I let her out every hour to go potty.
Steven Dunn Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 1:47 am
Pit Bulls in the UK are on the dangeous dog list. Alot were distroyed a few years ago its ilegal to breed them all existing ones have to be neutered. They have to be muzzeled in the street on a 1 mtr leash.
Anne Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
I am not sure how this proves anything. We have the ban in Ontario as well, but that does not make it right. Our provincial governemnt chose to ignore comments from Veternarians, animal behaviourists, the humane societies. Of course politicians are the dog experts.
Sam Briscoe Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 2:06 am
Mr Furman, you said “As you should know, pit bulls are “nanny dogs” in England because they are so good with children and protective of them.”
This is so not true at all. Pitbulls are on the Dangerous dogs list in the UK and are banned. If the authorities find out you have one they are allowed by law to cease the dog and have it put down.
Just because of their reputation I would never trust a pitbull with my children and anyone who does so is crazy.
rose fanning Reply:March 19th, 2014 at 5:54 pm
Thanks for calling me crazy. This whole debate is silly. Pits are strong willed and need training. If you’re too lazy to train them then don’t get one. No amount of arguing here is going to solve anything.
Leslie Ward Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 5:22 am
The Golden Retriever? NO WAY! I had a Golden (Jacob) for 15 years and he NEVER bit a human, no less another animal! Where did you get YOUR information from???
Eileen Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 5:56 am
The most popular breed is not the Golden Retreiver but the goofy Labrador Retreiver followed closely by the American German Shepherd. Those are from the AKC, published last year. Emergency room statistics do bear some credence to your claim that popular dogs have the highest incidence of dog bites.
What is not in dispute, regardless of where you got your stats is the number of serious or fatal dog bites, the pitbull leads the pack. I am not suggesting banning the breed; I am suggesting that all dog owners socialize and train their dogs. Even the Lab has to be socialized so it doesn’t run over a child in its exuberance and hurt the child. Pitbull owners need to be aware that they have a dog that many places are considering banning due to the fatalities associated with an encounter. The longer we deny these stats and not address them, the more likely that the breed will be banned. One of the most dog friendly places in the US is considering banning the pitbull because of an attack on a pregnant woman.
Leslie Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 7:29 am
“I know for a fact that the #1 dog that leads in human bites/attacks is the Golden Retriever. Simply because there are more of them than any other breed.”
Would you mind posting what you “know for a fact” that the Golden Retriever is the “#1 dog that leads in human bites/attacks”?
My Golden was wonderful around children, knew when I was sick and even provided his back to help me get up when I couldn’t. I never seen a Golden that didn’t want to please their master and was full of unconditional love. I have heard over and over again that the Golden Retriever was/is second on the canine list to consider for their gentleness and for being the wonderful family pets that they are. I’m proof of that myself, for having to have had the pleasure of owning my Golden for 15 years, of which he greeted everyone and every pet with glee & joy. He LOVED the attention of humans as well as his own kind. His brother Sir Charles, who is a 2 year old Maltese, would crawl up on him to take a nap! I think that you have overated your knowledge of what facts are really true and should be prepared to defend “what you know” as to be TRUE facts!
Sue Reply:August 27th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I can say everything you just said about your golden about my 14 year old pit bull. She’s an amazing dog. We have 6 (have had 7) pit bulls now in my (extended) family and not one of them is aggressive toward people. 7 dog bites in my neighborhood in the past 7 years, not one was a pit bull. There can be bad dogs in any breed, just like in humans there are bad people.
Rozalyn Reply:August 28th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
I was the Golden Retriever Representative for the Seattle Purebred Dog Rescue and I am here to sadly say not all Goldens are angles. I had to leave one at a shelter because he growled at me several times.(most confined Goldens are as happy to see humans as if they were the dogs actual owner). Also, these is a lot to be said for breeding. One “AKC” golden was the ugliest speciman I have ever seen with a sour temperment to boot. Not a good golden representative.
I just want to add that due to irresponsibile breeding – for money- there are many Goldens out there and the numbers DO show a lot of bites from them.
Lets try to keep our heads when we speak of attributes. GENERALIZING serves no purpose but to lump a breed into one category – and have insurance denied to the owner. None of my 5 Goldens ever bit but I know it is always a possibility with any dog.
Leslie Ward Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
It seems that most responses are being geared toward Chet, which was not my intention whatsoever, and I do apologize Chet! In fact when this thread was started by Mark Furman, as you can see by his response @ #2 above. I was responding to him (Mark)as he was referring to the Golden Retriever with him stating:
THAT really hit my heart and in defense of my Golden Retriever, Jacob, (may he R.I.P.) you can see that I spoke my opinion from my heart several times, trying to find out where he got his information. (STILL waiting for an answer)
I did forget to say though, that OF COURSE “there are more of them than any other breed”, because they unselfishly live to please, and are known to be one of the most unconditionally loving members to add to any type of a loving family. They love to learn and be praised, they adamently love children and are VERY loyal and want to be friends with EVERYONE! I NEVER even saw him show his teeth in anger or fear. He would let ANY dog just come up and take a bone right out of his mouth, or willingly move over to let others eat out of his bowl, play with his favorite toys, wait to be last for his treats, or even sleep in his bed, while he slept on the floor. The only thing he would bite is a flea! Unfortunately, I had to put him down, due to bladder cancer, so you can imagine the sorrows & grief that I & his baby brother, 1 yr old at the time, Sir Charles (Maltese) have had to endure since October 5th of 2010 at the age of 15. He came into my life @ 8 weeks old bringing so much joy, and left us with the best memories ever.
After reading the above link, “DogsBite.org”, which I suggest you (Mark) read, there was no place whatsoever that the Golden Retriever got anywhere near the top of “bites/attacks” OR deaths.
FYI, I have copied and pasted what I read (below) of just the first 5, with the Pit-Bull AS NUMBER ONE! Well, isn’t that strange?
Pit bull-type 66
German Shepherd Dog 17
Husky-type (includes at least 2 Siberian) 15
Scarlette-pitty Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
I would suggest you like into the info that you are getting ..do you really know the person behind dogsbite.org?!?! Or are you blindly fallowing the lead of the so many other before you ..that were jus going w it cuz it fit into something that they could/wanted to believe?!?!
You look into it for yourself ..don’t walk to blindly ..jus because everyone other blind person uses it!
Maggie Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Mark, I highly recommend you Google “Pitbull Attacks” and “Golden Retriever Attacks” and compare the difference in number AND the difference in content. Maybe next time you could do that before you start running your mouth.
Loni Reply:August 27th, 2011 at 2:29 am
Mark, All breeds attack people including the American Pit Bull Terrier. “pit bull” is not a breed of dog but any dog that resembles the American Pit Bull Terrier including the American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Bully, Spanish Bulldog, American Bulldog, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, Ambullneo Mastiff, American Bull Molosser, Dogo Argentino, Banter Bulldogge, Cane Corso, Catahula Bulldog, Guatemalan Bull Terrier, Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Otto Bulldog Pakistani Bull Dog and a lot of mix breeds. So when someone says that “pit bulls” bite the most they are talking about a lot of different breeds of dog all lumped under one name. My American Pit Bull Terrier is the best dog I have ever had. She loves everyone she meets and is great with my other dogs. The only dogs I have ever been attacked by were a Plott Hound mix and a Golden Retriever. The time I was attacked by the Hound mix was my fault but the time the Golden Retriever attacked me was not. It was running down the sidewalk and it attacked me with no warning signs.
josh Reply:August 27th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
I am willing to die for my 2 pits and many other pit bull owners that I know are the same way and that’s because they know their dog is willing to do any thing for them including die. That is love and loyalty. All a pit bull wants in this world is to please his master and be loved.
Pitbulls DO attack humans!
There was a little girl here the other day who was mauled by a pitbull. She was playing in her front yard, the pitbull came from across the road. The owners followed but did nothing but try to ‘call’ the dog off the girl. It actually attacked a couple of kids, but the kids all jumped up onto the coffee table but the 5yr old thought mummy could save her and ran to her mother. So the pitty, concentrated on that child and the mother has badly damage hands from trying to save her daughter.
The pitty was destroyed, the owners agreed to that.
Now, I’m not saying ALL pitty’s would attack a human. I DO agree with Chet that how you raise your pitty will have a huge impact on whether it would attack. ANY breed can go bad, a loveable lab can be very bad if it goes bad for whatever reason as they are strong and tenacious and don’t give up easily. However they rarely go bad unless mentally ill as they are raised to be the loving family dog they are known for.
The stats don’t lie. Now whether it’s because pitty’s are more likely to ‘snap’ and go bad from breeding, or whether it’s because the type of person to raise a pitty, likes an aggressive dog and it’s just that more pitty’s are raised that way, I don’t know. All I do know is that year after year we see deaths in the paper from pitty’s.
Sylvie Reply:August 27th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
judge the deed not the breed!! like you just said ”the owners just call the dog” its bad owners that leads to dangerous dogs! i have a pitty myself and i wouldnt trade him for any other breed !! and yes they are more deaths from pitbull because some stupid people raise them to be a fighter because of their past as fighter dogs and how tough they look.. they shouldnt be judge before you know them!!
Of course Pitbulls are right a the top, since they are the most popular powerful dog. Unfortunately there are a some irresponsible owners and this will definitely give them a bad name.
The other thing is that often a dog is simply named a Pitbull after a mauling because this is what people expect and the traumatized person is not in a state to argue.
In South Africa Boerbulls and other large breeds as well as mixed breeds are often labelled as Pitbulls after a mauling, and I am sure this happens elsewhere too.
The fact is people should be held responsible not the dog breed, another breed will simply take over those stats if they are outlawed.
a pit bull killed a four year old in Melbourne Australia just last week.
pls don’t tell us pit bulls don’t kill – they sometimes do.
those statistics are staggering and people are right to question them, but check them and then judge.
just don’t tell us these dogs don’t kill – you are deluding yourselves and endangering people by perpetuating this lie.
of course ALL breeds can be dangerous – but let’s start with the worst!
Thank you for this very interesting stats. I would however like to know what is the stats re the top 10 dogs in attacks on people.
It would also be very interesting to know how many owners have been attacked by there own dogs and what breed attacked his / her owner.
Just as a matter of interest here in The Republick of South Africa the stats have also shown that “Pit Bull’s ” is the No 1 atacker of all breeds and also holds the no 1 place of atacking its owner or attacking the childrens friends.
Being a dog handler in the South African Police and working many years with German Shephards I was very interested in G S D in attacking people
I was ammased that thorough bred dogs are VERY SELDOM involved in attacks on people.In some of the attacks where it was claimed that the attack was done by a G S D it was found that somewhere in the “mix breed” a German shephard was in the breeding ” a tail or the ears”.
Thank you for this article.
Greetings on a Warm spring day in South Africa
Dawn Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada,
September 1982 to June 25, 2010
By compiling U.S. and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2010, Merritt Clifton, editor of ANIMAL PEOPLE, shows the breeds most responsible for serious injury and death.
The combination of pit bulls, rottweilers, presa canarios, and their mixes:
80% of attacks that induce bodily harm
70% of attacks to children
83% of attack to adults
69% of attacks that result in fatalities
75% that result in maiming
I think it all bullsh*t I have pitbulls and they are all very human friendly-as I belong to thee Pitbull clubs we are trying to better the breeds bad reputation-cause most of the time the media has no clue to what a real pitbull looks like and they are so quick to say its a pitbull cause that’s what the media wants them the people to believe and lets face it none wants to read about a Poodle attacking humans-As for the human biting statistics for you that didn’t know the Pitbull is No WAIT….WAIT for it No 87th on the list for biting humans you more likely to be bitten by a beagle.The media makes me so angry……….
American Pitbulls (most common in the US) were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, to drive livestock, and as family companions. (United Kennel Club (UKC). 2008-11-01. Retrieved 2009-08-07.) The Dog Bite Law Center needs to check it’s facts, too…I did a report for my Nature Bio class on Pits, but I am just giving you one source. FIGHTING waS NOT the original reason for breeding Pits.
This is a very irresponsible thing to do Chet.
If you were going to make a point about safety around dogs and the fact that dogs can be dangerous, someone of your standing and with your following should most certainly have made sure the information was balanced.
The links to the sources of your information are certainly now there (one of which I note is a no win no fee “get compensated for your dog bite company”). There are many, many more, far more reliable and unbiased sources which you could have and should have used.
In fact one paragraph (from your source) which you did not highlight on your scary flyer, reads as follows:
“Each year, 4.7 million Americans are bitten by dogs. These bites result in approximately 16 fatalities; about 0.0002 percent of the total number of people bitten. These relatively few fatalities offer the only available information about breeds involved in dog bites. There is currently no accurate way to identify the number of dogs of a particular breed, and consequently no measure to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill”.
I don’t know if you are linked financially to any of your ‘sources’ but a lot of people who look up to you will certainly now be questioning your ethics.
Dog training is your gift – not propaganda – Bad move.
Anne Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 9:49 am
I certainly agree with you.
This is totally irresponsible on Chet’s part.
I am most disappionted.
I know several wonderful pitbulls.
I must add that I own a wonderful Border Collie, but I am an advocate for the pitbull.
Pitbulls have a reputation for being aggressive, because so many are. I have a cocker spaniel and a pitbull lives nearby, he is so aggressive to my dog, we have to walk in the opposite direction, we are so fearsome of it, even the dog owner can just about handle him. Everytime I take my dog out I think about coming across this pitbull. There not even attractive dogs, the bloody ugly!
Brynn Reply:August 31st, 2011 at 11:07 pm
hmmmm… owner can’t handle him enough said. In fact I say that to all of the critics on this site. When I was looking to adopt a dog I saw a German Shepherd site which said it would only adopt GSDs to owners with experience with the breed. It has a strong temperament, and needs to be handled by an Alpha personality. Same for any dog of any breed, who has signs of aggression. These dogs have very powerful jaws, which leads to the seriousness of their bites and its high number in the statistics, not any “unpredictability” or high aggression level. Who reports a dog bite that isn’t serious? No one, so the more powerful the dog, the more it’s bites will have to be treated by a doctor. Tiny weak dog = low number, Powerful or fast dog = high number. Any dog with an owner who knows how to handle it will be a good dog. All dogs want to please and love, and all dogs need an alpha personality to keep them in check. It is only an out of control dog that bites
Oh and stop citing the Pacifica woman. It is a horrifying thing that happened, but if it weren’t a Pit Bull it wouldn’t be national news. Sensationalism. It’s like the portrayal of middle easterners in the news after 9/11. An extremist group of whack-jobs made everyone Arabic look suspicious, when the mass majority were as appalled as we were. If a white guy robbed a store it was glossed over on the news, if even mentioned. But, if an Afghan- American had a run in with the law, it was reported widely and his ties and family background were called in to question. So it goes with the Pitbull. The pitbull is simply the whipping-boy of the dog world.
Here’s another statistic:
Since 1975, fatal attacks have been attributed to dogs from at least 30 breeds.
The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictability is the October 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family’s Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. (“Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog,” Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000, Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)
I live in the UK and all my life have known Golden Retrievers and Labradors to be the most gentlest of dogs. Many families with young children have them for this very reason.
Again whilst even over here Pit Bulls had a bad reputation, its unjust and unfair to say this breed are the agressive dogs. All dogs are loving needy creatures who brought up and trained by loving caring owners make wonderful pets.
All the terrible stories where you hear about say any dog but particularly the Pitt Bull is down to the owner aggressively training them to be ” Status Dogs”, which usually falls on ignorant young people who are out for the so called ” tough look”.
One thing I think should be more publised is the fact that children often torment dogs, and therefore its the parents fault that they do not teach their young respect for the dogs, hence when a kid gets bitten, though sad as that is, I bet my life on the fact the kid tormented the dog.
The other thing I notice, having a Westie (West Highland White Terrier) I notice kids automatically want to pet my dog becasue she is small cute and very sweet, thankfully mine is, again down to me respecting all animals, but I find parents do not ask ” may my child pet your dog”.
Last but not least, I think many owners in most major countries are good owners that train their dogs well, its only the minority that disobey what should be a common rule, train with love, kindness and respect for the species and you will have a wonderful pet all its years.
Sorry, folks. Most human-aggression is caused by bad breeding and bad training. Pit bulls have become dog of choice for drug dealers and young “macho” males. Due to their power, when a pit bull attacks, he inflicts tremendous damage.
In the US, pit bulls are the major cause of serious damage. That is a fact. Does it mean they should be banned? NO!!! Take away the pit bull and the idiots and criminals will move on to another strong dog.
But denying the facts isn’t going to help. The only true answer is to push for aggressive-dog laws that punish the owner, when it is the owner’s fault. Some dogs have bad temperments and shouldn’t be around people. Some owners mis-train their dogs and shouldn’t be around dogs. Take those two groups out of the equation and the statistics will change dramatically.
BTW, I suspect the true #1 biter is a chihuahua, but who is going to report their mauling by such a beast?
I can assure you Mr Furman that Pit Bulls are NOT classed as Nanny Dogs here in England. Most people wouldn’t have one if you paid them to. When the media informs us of dog attacks, they are frequently by pit bulls.
Brynn Reply:August 31st, 2011 at 11:10 pm
WHEN THE MEDIA REPORTS IT exactly
It’s very unfortunate when these things happen, and there are many factors involved in every attack. Unprovoked attacks do occur, and denial is no way to handle these horrible occurrences.
Here in Australia a child died last week due to an unprovoked attack.
We dog lovers need to work together towards a greater understanding of how attacks happen and what can be done to prevent them.
Kelly Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 5:47 am
True statement julie! All dogs have the genetics to be aggressive. Its just who,what,where,when,and why. If you leave your human emotions out of the equation then you start seeing the bigger picture. And by human emotions I mean like thinking you know what the animal is thinking, or talking for the animal, or treating the animal like a human. It’s not a human, it’s a dog and dogs have their own hierarchy, and instincts. Treat them with love, companionship and tenderness, and with gods good grace most likely you will have the best friend you could ever have. Differ from that and you get what you put into it. Just as in life there is no guarantee.
In reply to Mark Furman’s comment on Pit Bulls in England. Although I agree that they are usually very good with humans, here in the UK they are classed as ‘Dangerous Dogs’.
We’ve adopted a neutered male Pit Bull (about a year old) He is an extremely loving, gentle loyal dog. But he is also very jealous of my Rotweiler. People need to be aware of any situations that could cause an incident of aggression. Training is so important. Most of the situations I hear about attacks by Pit Bulls are when the are kept chained to a tree or in a fenced yard, or they are in a pack of 2 or more. They become very territorial. These dogs need to be part of your family, not tied to a tree.
Socialize your dog, train for total recall EVERY TIME! Get your dog into as many different social situations as possible so it’s never worried about what’s happening and where they are. PLAY with your dog so it learns bit inhibition!
So many simple basic things you can do to ensure you dog learns to walk away from situations it’s not comfortable in, rather than have it strike out in a fear based respons.
Always remember, it’s not the breed of dog that’s the issue. ALL dogs have the capability to bite in defense. It’s the pups mother who starts to teach the bite inhibition and then the OWNERS job to continue that with good solid training and socialization.
Never seperate a pup from it’s mother until it’s at LEAST 8 weeks old. THIS is when they learn their social skills. If you can get the “breeder” to allow you to pick the pup up at 9 or 10 weeks of age, even better!
I have 3 Smithfield Stumpy tailed cattle dogs…they are very people and children friendly, and love the postman…Why is this? because thats how I brought them up…they are loving and great companions …owners need to be responsable…I exposed them to all different sounds and people and experiences. I recently met a lady who was rehabilating a Pit Bull…she had endured the cruelity of illegall dog fights out west and was nearly dead when found…only now does she trust humans .
Chet, statistics found must be from odd source as pitbulls are not human aggressive unless treated unfairly(ie chained,teased ,poked ,provoked) just like any other breed Stats show that golden retrievers and german shepards to be way above pitbulls and clearly if you have food for 1 and 2 dogs of any breed there is going to be trouble! I rescue pitbulls from damaged backgrounds and they come in frightened or aggressively scared and leave as PETBULLS , after calm assertiveness and lots of love which gives all breeds confidence. Yes , some arrive so damaged and have been smacked on the head,shut in dark boxes,interbred or given drugs as they do here(in South Africa) but 99% are rehabitable. CHECK out Cesar Millans statistics, Dog Town and Best Friends (all USA)Even Michael Vicks dogs were rehabbed and he used to shock them with electricity and use RAPE machines!! and NIKE want to sponsor him again ???
PITBULLS are incredibly dedicated dogs and will even jump through a glass window to protect their owner, even if treated cruelly by them. They are strong energetic dogs and need plenty of excercise and human attention , so are not a breed that should be owned by the many people that own and mistreat them in South Africa and breed relentlessly. I support sterilisation and it is a continual battle here , besides the many dogs that are forced to be involved in the cruel sport of organised DOG FIGHTING, and back street as well, rife in this country and out of control as our animal protection act is very outdated.
These are scary stats. As a trainer I see every day that people do not have a clue. The pits are not the problem – it’s the people. The pits are just large, strong, protective dogs and when they bite they are serious and can do great damage. O
why do we shame the pitbull? it is the people who attack not the pitbulls!it is the people who make the dogs like they are it is mostly all the peoples faults.why do we have to put numbers of people who die or the type of dog i think evry dog could have a chance of bitting people but they are trained right.please do not shame the pitbull but the owner who trained it.
Statistics don’t lie. Our canine companions can be trained to act with compassion, but just as with people, some canines are predisposed by environment or genetics to be aggressive. Anyone that owns a Pit Bull breed here in America must be aware that they are choosing a companion with the potential for mayhem at any moment,and ask yourself if the reward is worth the risk? I own three dogs of three different breeds that are watched around small children – size not age – to remove the opportunity for a dangerous interaction. And one of those dogs is a very gentle loving but demanding Beagle. Doing the right thing for your canine companion is very important, and not placing the dog in a no-win situation is something every dog owner should practice.
Kandi H Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 6:13 am
Actually your very wrong statistics can have lots of error which can cause them to be wrong anyone can make statistics say what they want. It’s true I’m in a Stats class right now an we are learning not math like most stats class but how to interpret them an to tell if they are misleading or not an you wouldn’t believe all the room for error these people have so unless they have all this information available to you which most inaccurate ones do not, then I would not personally agree or believe anything that is being said! Very misleading if you ask me!
Amberglowingmoon Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Statistics don’t lie ? Really? have you never hear of fudging the numbers or loading a poll to get the results you want? Do you not listen to all the political polls during election years? Have you never noticed the same poll can sat something different for different parties?
I am a pit bull mix owner.. and before I made the choice to get even a mix I did TONS of research on the breed and their issues. Part of the reason that pitbulls as a group get blamed for more bites than most other breed is because MOST people don’t even know what a pitbull really looks like, there are 26 breeds that are regularly labeled as pitbulls that are NOT pitbulls. So there will NEVER be an ACCURATE count on how many pitbull bites there are since people who are bitten can not correctly identify the dog biting them.
Please copy and paste and see where you land in this little test. Can you Correctly identify the pitbull without having been bitten? Part of the issue is main stream media blaming pitbulls for everything that happens, so immediatly if they aren;t sure what dog bit them they say.. it was a pitbull. and then wham! some poor pitbull living in the neighborhood is getting put down when in fact it may not have beem that dog. Sad state of affairs I think. Bad dog behavior and human owners not taking responsability for their animals training and confinement no matter the breed is actually to blame. Not some specific breed. Seriously folks get over yourselves do your own flippin research and stop swallowing statistics that are obviously skewed to the detriment of one breed of dog who is in reality a sweet loving dog. I have never meet an mean agressive pitbull, I do know that they can be MADE to be mean.. they are NOT born mean and agressive. On the other hand you can MAKE a toy poodle mean. I have heard the most dog bite are actually done by small little toy dogs but most ppl don’t report those bites cuz ” it’s just a small little dog..it was only scared and protecting it’self” Up till it rips a lip on a child open or almost takes out a childs eye.. but would that breed be villafied like pitbulls have ?
First, I think you guys are a little harsh regarding Chads information. Possibly because you disagree/don’t like what it says. Secondly, I agree with what Julie wrote: “Dog lovers need to come together towards a better understanding regarding the matter.” Most Pitbulls are trained to attack just like they are trained to be nanny dogs. The key word is “TRAINED.” It seems that Pits & Rotts “nature” is to attack. Ex. I know of a person who raised three pits from 6 wks. to 1yr. old. Two of them mauled each other & inevitably had to be put to sleep. This happened in my state, Shelby Co., Ky (I live in Louisville, Ky.) The two were playing and they ended up fighting (due to the taste of blood?). This is an example of why most people fear them. However, some of these breeds are like “GENTLE LAMBS.” I have neighbors who owns two Rotts. A 2 yr. old maleand a 1 yr. old female. They are “Gentle Lambs/very protective of their family & friends.” But if provoked, may GOD be with you! So, again Plz don’t be upset with Chad. He gives us Good and Free helpful information. Whereas others charge for the needed & useful information.
I’m a full time dog trainer and I work with over 100 dogs a year and there a definitely large breed dogs that I would never consider leaving with unaccompanied children. My specialty and favorite dogs are Dobies, Sheoherds, and Rotties and they can also bite if they aren’t properly socialized.
The numbers are always skewed because any mixed breed animal that bites is lumped into the pitbull category. So any dog that’s picks up off the street that may bite out of fear is thrown into the same category. I don’t personally own pits, but as a veterinary student I have spent thousands of hours working with all types of dogs and in all honesty I would take a room with a pitbull over a chihuahua/husky/shepherd room any day. In 8 years of being in the veterinary industry I have seen one case of a pit turning on an owner, but it came to find out the dog came from a “top” line of fighters and the people just thought if they loved him enough, they would never have a problem. No reputable trainers would post such garbage because all dogs have teeth and whether they are biters is more environmentally influenced then anything.
I do not find your stats to be inflated, or unrealistic. I also do not think you are singling out any breed in particular to become a villain. There are many things that can make a dog unpredictable or unstable. The dog may have been taken from its mother before being properly acclimated as to dog behavior, genetics play a large part in the tendency for a dog to be aggressive, and their human owners are not always careful, tuned in or committed enough to the dog’s success. Unfortunately some people have used their dog’s size and strength for their own gain, in particular those who engage in drug sales, protection etc. If a serious dog owner knows that their dog has aggression problems, they are duty bound to protect the dog, other animals, and the public from being harmed in any way. If your dog lunges, snarls, becomes aggressive in certain situations, you already know about this. When in public, muzzle your dog, never let a dog run loose, and keep him/her on leash and in control. There is no need to set any animal up for failure, no reason to put other people or animals at risk. The killing or injuring of another animal or human being is one hundred percent preventable. Treat your animal kindly and with safety in mind. The alternative could be horrible for others, your dog, and the public at large. A law suit could insure that you lose more than your dog; you could lose everything you own. Neglect can come with a hefty price tag attached. I muzzle my fear aggressive white German shepherd when out because I respect what kind of damage can potentially be done if my dog is placed in a situation where he becomes fearful. I love my dog and respect the public, my duty as a pet owner is to make sure all are safe.
Training Training Training.
It’s all about how you train, what you train. I have a American Pit Bull mix and she can get aggressive, but I constantly work with her and she loves to play with our other dogs and cats!
exercise your pit. A tired Pit is a happy pit.
Scarlette-pitty Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Oh ..how true you are bout a tired pit! lol ..they love to run and play ..the more energy you have them burn off ..the less likely they are to act out!
Training ..Play ..Training! VERY KEY ..w this breed!
Pit Lover all the way! =oD
It is a shame what the has been done to the wonderful American PitBull breed. Our family has owned pit bulls for 3 generations now and I can tell you Pit Bulls are some of the most human loving dogs anywhere. This a breed that was created for the fighting/baiting sport and animal aggression can still be an issue with these dogs, but human agression is not an inherent trait of Pitbulls. Over the many years, human aggression in these dogs was an undesirable trait and breeders purposely bred this trait way. Hence why Pitbulls make for lousy watch dogs!
Like I said these dogs are not for every owner, but for the right owner, they are the most loyal and dedicated animal companion a man could ask for.
sad thing is the majority of dog bites/attacks that are reported as “pit bulls” are nothing close.
Yet the stories about them never change.
My neighbor was attacked by one of his dogs his German Shepherd, When his son called the police he told them that his dad was attacked by their pit bull. The wrong dog was euthanized and even after finding out the truth about the attack all of the media reports still state “the family pit bull”.
I used to like this blog but can honestly say I am thoroughly disappointed with this piece.
You are very irresponsible for promoting the belief that the TERRIERS thrown together equate a dangerous breed of dog. We get your point that it is important to train any dog to be safe. The dog that tore it’s master’s face off in the news a few years ago was a Labrador Retriever!!!! What people are upset here about is that you would promote the myth that “pit bulls” (there is no such breed) are dangerous because of their breeding.
You should never have included this ad if you wanted anyone to learn your point. You state they are valid statistics and the extremely unfortunate thing here is that it is a proven fact that the minimum wage animal control people cannot accurately distinguish the breed of a dog!!!! Recently one of our 4 generation Australian Labradoodles escaped our yard in the night and we couldn’t find her. Someone picked her up on the highway and drove her 73 miles to the VCA in their area and because she was micro chipped she was returned. The point is that they labeled this dog in the Humane Society as a “german short haired terrier mix”!!! and this dog was birthed into my hands and I have DNA proof as to her parentage and 4 generations before her! The statistics are ridiculously clouded with error.
Shame on you for stooping this low and also for not being adult enough to admit you erred in promoting such garbage. It would appear that you will stand by your position of presenting this to make the point that dogs must be trained!!! It is a negative approach and you lost your audience.
Kelly Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 5:22 am
The Article stated that they were not pointing out one single breed! or did you not read that? I have had dogs all my life and there are certain dogs that have traits that people do not understand, because they use human thought not animal thought. So for you to write your (quote) feelings on this article clearly shows that your thinking with your emotions and not your brain, and fools cannot find logic in the chambers of the heart!
Brynn Reply:August 31st, 2011 at 11:21 pm
It said they were not pointing it out and then….. they pointed it out. I can say I wont hit you and then hit you, do you not deserve to get mad then?
We have 5 Schnauzers one of which is very old and protective toward my husband but we have brought them up right. I don’t believe any dog is bad or good; it is a matter of how they are raised. Our dogs know bad behavior will not be tolerated!Betty
On July 1,2011 I had to watch my beautiful Cat Nibbles be murdered in front of me . It was so horrible to watch I still have nightmares. This dog was a beautiful Pitbull had a great personality (or so I thought I liked him) but sadly due to his genes and yes the ignorance of his owners his and my kittys destiney was set. Harley had play attacked another neighbors dog and caused extensive damage (i stupidly stuck up for him) then two weeks before he attacked Nibbles he attacked his own member of the family a 8 year old bulldog she had to have several surgerys to close up the wounds in her neck ( her elizabethan color and tubes had just been taken out couple days before Nibbles murder). Harley should have been put down then but NO the VET told the owner Harley could be retrained NOT TRUE . The owners kept him in a cage in the house 24/7 giving him a lot of pent up energy/anger so on the 1st he escapes came running down the street full of this energy as he he was going bye he saw my Nibbles move and he caught her in mid air and took all we had to get them seperated 2 trys( she got away once but he bit the owner then got Nibbles again) if any good is to be said about it at least it wasnt the little 2 year old granddaughter that had been standing by Nibbles a minute earlyier and yes Nibbles took Harley down with her. Harley died on his living room floor as we were trying to get Nibbles to the vet He was only 2 years old needless to say I didnt cry for him..Sadly now I have a great fear of even pittbull puppies and any agressive breed but esp the pittbulls..
Mark! You either must be the most unread person walking on the face of this planet, or your the biggest ostrich in the world, I suggest you pull the perverbial head out of the hole you stuck it in and look at reality! Pitt Bulls do bite, labs bite, hell those little mexican chia pet looking dogs bite, Quit Being so bias, It completely makes you look Well, as about intelligent as a bag of rocks!
Brynn Reply:August 31st, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Pot, kettle. Spellcheck and grammar check hypocrite
Thanks for putting up this information. I do so enjoy some good bantering by the dog owners. Raise them right and you should not have any problems, just like a child. Thanks a again Chet!
I believe the statistics are right for the attacks you hear about. There are a lot of attacks not reported because little dogs can bit but not do any or much harm. Pit bulls do have a tendency to attack, but you have to look at who is attracted to this type of dog and what they do with them. Any dog has the ability to attack humans and it is how they are raised. If they fear humans or trained to be aggressive then they are more likely to attack humans and unfortunately there are people out there that do that. If a dog is neglected or teased by humans, does not matter if it’s once or a thousand times they are more likely to attack. It’s the responsibility of the care taker to make sure the dog does not get in a position where it get neglected or teased and to make sure that he does not fear humans. If the dog is brought up right the dog will know when to be friendly this is most of the time and when something is not right and need to be protective. Let’s be responsible for the four legged friends we so dearly care for and save the ones who are in a bad position to no fault of their own.
Here in Ontario, Canada Pitbulls have been banned because they are potentially a dangerous dog because of the damage they can do with their bite. This decision was made only after the numerous serious attacks by pitbulls – this is not a myth. Someone can raise a cute cub lion only to be mauled by it when it’s an adult – it’s the nature of the animal
Are you kidding me?
Lets take a look at your “sources”:
Dog Bite Law Center – Is an attorney network page for dog bite victims, COME ON you got statistics from a fear monger like that?
DogsBite.Org – links back to the cdc website but actually gets their facts wrong.
Come one dude. I have a pittbull who is loving and the friendliest dog i’ve ever met (towards both people and other dogs) As are hundrends of other pitts that i’ve encountered over the year.s
Why no stats on other dog breeds like the lab that killed a 2 year old? Before you begin pulling crap off the internet to sell your stupid videos, check the credibility.
Why no discussion about taking a group of labs/retreivers/any other dog and put them in a fighting ring for a year and see if they could be rehabilitated.
Why no discussion about how many of the dogs from Vick’s fighting rings were famously rehabilitated into loving family dogs. Why don’t you read the book “the Lost Dogs” and then tell me about the ferocity of this breed or better yet the pure love they have for humans even after what they endured.
Just so you know, I will now move all your future e-mails to spam.
Pit Bulls are banned in England and have been since the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991.
Thank you for publishing these stats. One thing that has been omitted is the difference between breeders, and the traits they breed for. Working dogs in general, bred from working lines by responsible breeders, are bought and socialized early so they can compete and win trials. These breeders choose dogs for temperament, not conformance or appearance. One problem is “backyard breeders” who breed dogs of any temperament, just looking to make money on popular breeds. While they are better than puppy mills, few have the ability to choose dogs for temperament.
You info is perfect , and
I get that you are not
Trying to pick on one dog.
We have a blacklab x pitbul we took in him at 15mons and he is
Comical but your technique
For obediance work.
Keep the good info coming,couldn’t
Do it without you
the way I see it…..ANY DOG CAN BE HARMFUL. IT IS THE WAY A DOG IS BROUGHT UP. IF THEIR TRAINED TO BIGHT AND FIGHT, THEN THATS ALL THEY KNOW TO DO. IF THEY’RE BROUGHT UP TO BE OBEDIANT THEN OBEDIANCE IS ALL THEY KNOW. DONT BLAME THE DOG….. BLAME THE OWNER.
Rhetoric (talk, talk, talk) will not work. Dogs must be trained to live comfortably with humans. Children should be taught to treat dogs with respect. ALL DOG OWNERS MUST TRAIN THEIR DOGS!!!!! Tiny poodles bite more often than others, they just don’t do as much damage. H$U$ and PETA put out such garbage about certain breeds, so we dog owners must decipher the garbage put out by those clubs. We must fight breed specific legislation, as we are losing the right to own any breed we like. Chet is one who is on the bandwagon. He doesn’t, as far as I can see, support such nonsense, but DOES insist upon the training of dogs. So, Chet, keep doing what you are doing, encourage people who own any breed/mutt dogs to TRAIN THEM!!!!!!! Thanks, keep up the great work!!!!
I have a miniature poodle that has ears of an eagle and the best watchdog ever BUT he is anti-social when I’m around and thinks that anyone he doesn’t know is a threat.
He has to be “introduced” and when he decides they are “acceptable to the pack”, he never forgets and loves them forever. If however,on our walks, someone comes up running,on a bike,yelling,speaking loudly or just getting too close, he lunges for the nip. I don’t know why and as I’m aware of it, I watch carefully and say “no” and jerk his leash.
I’m not sure if there is more I can too, he has been to training classes etc. but he doesn’t do it there. I know he would literally die for me but I wish he could understand that not everyone is/can be a threat and he doesn’t have to put himself out there like that.
I am surprisingly disappointed in your latest posting. You seem to have a positive uplifting successful technique in training dogs. I appreciate your dedication to improving dog’s and owner’s relationships.
However, by posting one link and mass sending it to your readers without thoroughly researching its validity seems to me extremely negligent on your part.
There is only one Pit Bull Terrier, but there are lots of bully breeds, which include the pit bull. Staffies, Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Miniature Bull Terriers, Bulldogs (English and American) and a few other breeds are all also included in this bully breed spectrum. Boxers are even mistaken for Pit Bulls. MOST people are not aware of the distinction of any of these breeds. Did you know that when recording dog bites that if a dog looks like any of these breeds it is erroneously often recorded as a Pitt Bull or Putt Bull-like attack. That is counting at least 8 different breeds as one – Putt Bull. Just because it looks like it could aggressively defend doesn’t mean it has leans toward the mentality of aggression.
It is equivalent to grouping all retrievers (at least 17 different breeds) and if any retriever-like type dog attacked, stating that only the Golden Retrievers are the attackers. For more accurate information on bully breeds, check out this website- http://www.dogchannel.com/dog-magazines/popular-dogs/articlebullybreeds.aspx.
Also most attacks are not done by purebreds. The question is – which breed in the mix was the aggressor? To get a really good scope on dog bites, the AVMA (American Veterinary Medical Association) published an article under the State Legislative Resource section.
Another good site to view – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack
I agree, ALL dogs need to be trained. But by singling out a negative inaccurate article on a specific breed just makes it look like your primary concern is not for the dogs.
So please Chet, before sending information out you haven’t personally thoroughly and accurately researched yourself, reconsider the validity and don’t follow the inaccurate hype of what sells newspapers.
The naysayers have not read Chet’s report. At least check out DogsBite.org. We must differentiate between biting dogs and killers; those who cite their one pet or several pets are not being logical. The data didn’t use only one or two bites or deaths to substantiate their points, they used all available facts.
It does no good, I fear, to state that OWNERS MUST TRAIN their dogs. The problem owners don’t even feed or shelter, give health care, or love their pets–they get them, then abuse and neglect them. How can our saying THEY MUST TRAIN THEIR DOGS change any of this? They aren’t listening. I do think constant teaching can make a difference.
Those of you who immediately subjectivized Chet’s info aren’t listening. He’s not talking about YOUR beloved pit bull. I’ve never had and will never have a pit bull, but I do know more about the breed and understand them better thanks to Cesar Milan and Pit Boss. Still, I know of a young child who was attacked by a family pit who tore off most of the child’s face and scalp. The child survived but oh the pain to everyone involved. I can only assume children teased that dog cruelly to get it to react the way it did.The difference is that once a pit attacks, it’s harder to stop than, say, a beagle (the only dog who ever bit me was a beagle).
People, stop and smell the coffee–and read what Chet was really saying. Wake up to the fact that we have a dog bite/mauling problem and then do something effective about it.
I think it’s pathetic that you call yourself a dog trainer. You make it sound like your intent is not to villianize a certain breed but that’s exactly what you are doing. Pathetic. People like you are the reason so many cities now have Breed Specific Legistlation, which is rediculous. We should worry about dangerous dogs not misunderstood breeds.
Chet, You’ve lost credibility in my eyes by quoting this obviously biased and less than scientific organization. I’d really like to see some stats from someone reliable on this. Below is a link to an article explaining the problem with dogsbite.org, and all of your other “references” cite them.I think you should retract this one. http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2010/03/the-truth-behind-dogsbiteorg.html
Chet – Your intention was not to subject any one breed as dangerous, well you did it anyway. So disappointed in you.
here read this, it’s canadian (as am I). But I found this to be very informative & does not single out any Dog breeds. I myself don’t like pitt bulls, simply because I find them to be an unaatractive dog, but I do not hate on them because there are too many bad owners out there. I have met and interated with some very kind, loving and fun Pitt bulls but I have also seen one lunge at my puppy for no reason. It’s all in how you raise them, just like kids.
I currently have a 4 month old Boxer hound cross, who absolutely loves children, but can become over stimulated & very excited thus he he never allowed to interact with children unsupervised.
Scarlette-pitty Reply:August 26th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Im glad you posted that ..even though you don’t like pits ..you’ve said you’ve know some friendly and playful ones. The link that you posted was good ..someone actually stating a facts ..not jus pit bull hate propaganda! Though I don’t care for smaller dogs/ankle biters ..w friends I mess around w them ..but when it comes to the breeds themselves ..its all up to the owner and what they want ..also the kinda dog that fits into their life style!
Though their are alot of ppl that dont get the kinda dog for their kinda life style ..or don’t do enough homework on the dog(pits to more exact) ..the breed can be an amazing and fun filled dog! One has to always side on caution when it comes to this breed ..they are a strong and powerful dog ..can also be very driven if they want something bad enough. Just as you said bout your 4month old boxer ..can get overly excited at time ..same goes for pits esp since they love people ..im glad you said you don’t leave him unsupervised. Enless you know the very very well ..when it comes to kids ..or even adults(if you don’t know dogs body lang) make sure the owners are there at the time of interaction.
Thanx Monty’s Mom! =oD
Hi I agree that dog bites are a problem. I haven’t studied into it, or even particularly read up on the subject, but even one unprovoked dog attack is one too many.
Dogs will attack, any dog would given the right circumstances. I have often heard that pitt bulls are a dangerous breed, that hundreds of years ago the price of a litter of pup was judged by how long the Mother’s decapitated head would hang onto the bull she had bitten. A dog that has even a myth of that as a factor in its breading is a potential danger. I have also heard that Dobies, even good, trained, gentle, family dogs will turn on thier owners when they get older – because of MAN getting involved in breading for appearance rather thatn the over all health of the dog. I have also heard that pit bulls are great family dogs and love children. So what do you believe? personally I believe that any dog is potentially dangerious, even one that has been well trained. But, training both dogs to respect people and people- starting as little children- to respect dogs is the best answeer. However not all people think, act or even feel that way and they are the problem – not the dogs! There are some mean dogs out there, I believe that a dog that has a violent nature or has been trained that way should be put down right along with their owners! I have had several dogs and have loved each one dearly, but even though I have trusted my dogs, I would be stupid to have left my young child unattended with on of them. I always taught my kids to treat animals gently, but a baby or young child really doesn’t know better any more that does a young dog. Also a dog can sense fear and sensing fear can sometimes be enough to set the dog off. The dog can either get scatred himself or get excited by that fear and that leaves for unpredictable predctible actions for all parties concerened.
Thanks for the post Chett
I have bred and handled German Shepherds for years and I have worked for a power company for 25 years that has required me to go to countless yards that had dogs of every conceivable breed out there, and to me the most dangerous dogs are Pitbull breeds, Rottweilers and Chows mixed together with a very wrong kind of owner. I’ll explain why.
The problem is the mentality of many of the owners of those breeds. You will find that a great deal of people who own Pits, Rotty’s and Chows have a “my dog is tougher than your dog” Redneck type attitude and would never stand to own a well socialized, non-macho dog. These owners want the toughest Alpha pup out of a litter of very agressive Pitbull, Rotty or Chow parents.
If they were to ban those breeds the dog biting problem would still exist, just in different breeds, because those same kind of owners would get the toughest Alpha German Shepherd or Lab from a litter of very aggresive parents.
So you see, the problem is the mixture of the wrong dog with a very wrong owner and how can you possibly prevent that?
Bottom line on dog bites/maulings: dangerous animals are ANY that have not been socialized and trained to have manners. That falls to the owner. That said, some dog breeds are more aggressive than others and some are much more powerful than others. It stands to reason that a naturally aggressive and/or powerful dog when untrained poses a danger. Shame on their owners! None of us should have to live in fear of a dog.
I just want to echo what some others have said…. you really need to use credible sources and dogsbite.org is most certainly not credible. Lots of people like to quote from them and have no idea what a biased, anti-pit bull website it actually is. I was expecting to see some helpful information when I opened this, not the same old scare tactics. For someone who wasn’t trying to pick on a breed, you did just that, and lost a whole lot of credibility. As a dog trainer, you should have known better.
You were the last person I expected to be a party to media-hype where dogs are concerned. You should be ashamed of yourself. If, as your email purports, you really wanted to promote your manner of training, you could easily have done so without identifying a particular breed. While on the subject, please with your immense wisdom and experience define for us exactly what a “Pit Bull” is. As for your citation of sources, clearly you failed to discern that more often than not these statistics lump “Pit Bull” types as singular and further they tend to lump Pit Bull, Akita, Rottweiller, German Shephards and several other specific breeds singularly. A person in your profession should be way above this ludicrous behavior, sir.
Why don’t you take up the challenge of finding out for yourself? Clearly, you have failed to consider that.
Wow, Chet. It seems like you’re being raked over the coals for posting these statistics. It’s really not your fault that pits are aggressive by nature. I wonder if as many people would argue about a border collie if you said it’s in that particular breed’s nature to heard… thanks for the info, Chet! Great stuff. 🙂
Anne Reply:August 29th, 2011 at 10:43 am
You need to read Nikki #61 post. Another good book for reference is Dog Town.
Why would anyone want to debate or argue, (the way we have about the Pitbull stats on aggression,) about a border collie’s ability to “herd”? This is not a dangerous trait nor does it malign the breed.
Maggie Reply:August 31st, 2011 at 10:56 am
The fact is that pitbulls are aggressive by nature, just as border collies herd by nature. The pro-pit people whine about everybody “picking on” this beed; the media, other dog owners etc., when the fact is there would be the same concern if there were an outbreak of golden retriever attacks/maulings.
Do you believe that the way people turn out is a direct outcome of the way their parents raised them? I’ve known a lot of people who have wonderful, loving, caring parents and have raised them in a wonderful environment, and they still turn out rotten. On the flip side, I also know of people who were raised with shit for parents and had a horrible life growing up and are now the most loving, caring people.
The way people/dogs are raised has a huge part in the way they turn out as adults, but the truth is that it doesn’t always curb the nature of the person/animal.
Here in the city that I live in, a 3 year old girl was attacked and mauled by their family pitbull. He was the same age as the child, had grown up with her. He had never shown one sign of aggression; had never even groweled at a stranger. The grandfather was there babyistting the child, just as was routine every day, and was outside with the girl and the dog. The girl was playing nicely with the dog, and the dog suddenly attacked her, ripping apart her vaginal area. The grandfather couldn’t pull the dog off of her, and had to shoot and kill him.
Recently, two pitbulls that live next door to a friend broke THROUGH the fence and ripped apart her two miniture shelties. Literally ripped them apart. There were limbs and pieces all over her back yard.
Several years ago I babysat a little boy twice a week and they had a huge pit that for the most part was a wonderful dog. Sweet, affectionate, and very clearly protective. I was a regular at the house, the dog knew me and liked me, but there were several times I was concerned for the safety of the then two year old boy, and also a few times for myself. I ended up putting him outside on more than one occasion.
I have never heard of a golden retriever randomly attacking anyone, and I’m sure that if it were to happen it would be all over the news since it’s such a rare occurance. Each breed is different, and it’s scary that some people don’t believe that. That puts families, neighbors, and random pedestrians in all kinds of danger when people don’t believe that “their dog could never do that.”
I feel that the only reason why pit bulls have been rated so high in dog attacks, is because of their strenght and will to please their owners, the owners take advantage of this and train them in dog fights, if the dog escapes and has pups, she will teach them that humans are dangerous and when a child sees and dog, they will try and rub it, resulting in attacking the child, but pit bulls that are loved by their owners will NOT attack unless the owner is in danger as all dogs will want to protect their owners.
I take my dog to a local park everyday where they also have a dog park, there are many people who bring their pitbulls there, I have actually come to like the breed thru my daily visits to the dog park…but I have observed several things over the years. The people who have no experiance with the breed and had no idea what their dog is capable of are the same ones who can’t control them, who let them drag them from the car,they don’t listen to the owner and those are the pits that are most aggressive with other dogs at the park. On a same note tho, the people who have their dogs by their side while walking , waits at the gate “politely” while the owner is unleashing it, responds when the owner addresses is…those are the dogs that play nicely with other dogs, approach humans in a friendly playful manner and are enjoyable and lovable to be around.
To many people get the pitt for the wrong reason. They do not educate themselves with the breed BEFORE purchasing(which everyone SHOULD do no matter what breed they are getting)There are some people out there that should just NOT own a pitt. A breed should be matched with the amount of time and energy and training a person is willing to put into it. Yes Pitts are a more assertive and sometimes agressive breed especially an unnutered male,and a responsable owner recognizes that, but 30 years ago I couldn’t get insurance on my house because I owned german shepards which at that time( according to my insurance agents “aggressive breed high risk ” list was topped by the german shepard followed second by the rotti) so what is all boils down to, be a responsible owner, don’t assume your dog won’t bite someone just because it won’t bite you, spend the time needed to train your dog, socialize it early.
I have a preacher friend who is on his Fourth pit (Rescued from a stupid breeder)I have been involved in some of the socialising of his pits, generally at a place in Durban south africa known as the Shongweni farmers market (Google It & look for the Labs).I bred labradors and trained them as gun dogs ,for many years —also a gentle, loving dog but in defense of their lives would probably bite as well. The point is,I have seen quite a few pits there over the years and I’ve actually rolled on the grass at times with My friends ” Reds” ,a situation which could provoke an attack response and have as yet had only good games / training with them.Also I’ve yet to see any dog fight or bites there from any breed ,over an 8 year period (EVERYONE brings ALL SORTS of breeds There every Saturday ).
I feel a tremendous responibilty rests on the owner of any large breed of dog to socialise them correctly.
Prospective owners of my dogs offspring sometimes don’t like the questionaire which I require them to complete,but,No questionaire,no dog!
In summing up Stats can be made to prove anything you like,Yes Pits can be Dangerous but so can any large breed ,in the right cicumstances.
I have a pittie mix that I got from the pound as a puppy. She’s great but does play rougher than my other dogs. Loves to mix it up even with my bigger dogs. I love her spunk. True fact…over 2000 children will die this year from attacks. That is attacks from their very own parents. Now compare that with the approximately 15 pit attacks on children that resulted in death. Who is the more wicked? The media recently told of a pit that killed his pregnant owner. So the police officer shot the dog. Later it was discovered the woman had fallen from a ladder and that is what caused her death. But the media didn’t tell you that. People often ask me if my dogs bite and I tell them…they never have but they do have teeth and they are animals and that is their best defense. When a stranger asks to pet my dogs I instruct them as to exactly how they should do this before I say Yes. I love the bully breeds. they command respect.
NO MORE DEADLY THAN golden retrievers, beagles and other lovable breeds- in a recent study of 122 dog breeds done by the American temperament testing society Pitbulls actually achieved a high passing rate Of 83.9%. this is higher than beagles at 78.2% and golden retrievers at 83.2%!!! It is not about the breed, it’s about the owner! If you take the time to research or truly interact with the breed before blindly believing the media, you would understand this. Have you read ‘The Lost Dogs’ by Jim Gorant? My guess is No, but I highly recommend it. It speaks of michael vick’s dogs from Bad News kennels where pitbulls and Pitbull type dogs were trained and bred to fight from day one. However, it also speaks of how nearly ALL of these dogs have been rehabilitated (only one female who was bred to no end was destroyed due to aggression). One of the Vick dogs Jonny Justice actually went on to be a Therapy dog that now helps children read. One is a police dog, one goes to the hospital to visit cancer patients! Not such a dangerous breed if you ask me! If people would get the facts and actually understood the breed before making accusations we wouldn’t have this problem. The true problem is irresponsible owners and it doesn’t matter what dog they own. Do your research, learn, and at the very least watch the Dog Whisperer !!! I own three dogs, one of which is a pitbull and one a chihuahua! I trained her as a puppy and since have never had to get after her for playing rough with my chihuahua. Right now we have 5 dogs in our small house, since I foster dogs, and they ALL get along. My pitbull has even been bit by foster dogs (one a chihuahua cross and one a husky/ mastiff) before and just yelped, moved back and looked at me!
Ps pitbulls jaws do NOT lock, there is no locking mechanism in their jaw. Ask any vet. Info in this post gotten from badrap.org and atts.org and from my own experiences with my pitbull.
The main problem is that the vast majority of dog owners bring a dog home, love them, feed them and that’s their view of dog ownership. In reality much more is involved. The dogs (any breed) need training and appropriate exercise. Most dog owners do not devote the time to their animal. Any breed can be “good” with an owner willing to devote the time–and any breed can be “bad” with a lazy owner. People really need to understand the responsibility they are taking on before taking any animal into their care.
to chet i know what your trying to tell people about the dogs that attc not to long a go in was in my yard taking trash out and this man had three dogs walking them and one the pitbull keep want to come torg me and i say nice dog my dauther has one just like it he said it friendly and want you to pet it by the time i said no thanks the dog was right their had mt arm and then he did not had it good and he let go and then chece me aroung the trash can the guy tried to make him stop and stard to kick him and choking him and said he only want to play will he got me on the arm and i did not know the guy just drug him and his outher god s home i keep tell him im bleeding he kept walk any way he was told by the animal pound not to have him out will 5 days later my niece was here with her kids and they were getting ready to leve the same guy that was told not to have the dog out had it out and try to get the kids while they were trying to get in the car so it not the dog falt it the person who raise the dogs and how they train them yes it the dog aunt sister behavor that can go to genaritons that been train to att or just bit my daughter had one and had puppys will the next door guys poissin them and they turn mean and had to be put down thank you for info
I love my doberman pinchers and have had them for over 33 years, I really think they are the most loyal and friendly dog for adults and children, but you must understand they are dogs and any dog can bite, with out our knowing why, so really any dog can become dangerous not just pit bull, and this is what people must understand, and be careful in keeping their dog safe especially with humans.
Just sharing my experiences:
I currently have a 4 month old Amstaff/Choclate Lab mix. She is as cute as can be and has lots of energy…very needy and affectionate and still in the nipping stage which has become less with our training her. One thing I have noticesd is that the rope toys are ok as long as you do not play tug-of-war ( as some trainers say is ok…I think it depends on how the dog reacts to it). She gets a wild look and is agressive. I can see it in her eyes. It would be an act of stupidity to continue such a game with her as she is very strong and doesn’t want to let go…That says alot! When I get home from work she whines and cries until I go say hello. She is extremely smart and is picking up key commands real well. You have to use common sense in training. I had a german shorthaired pointer for 18 yrs and she was a sweetheart and my last dog wss an Akita/Shepherd mix…who was loving unless you got near her food ( that I had just given her !) or had touched her feet…she would snap at you and lunge at you…and we got her as a puppy! I think it is a real good idea to rub the puppy’s back and tummy and briefly hold her feet briefly because then they are not so skiddish. Our Amstaff was very apprehensive initially if we pet her lower back or touched her feet….but i remembered our Akita, and made a point of doing this…now she totally trusts us.
Owning any dog breed is a huge responsibility and to let them live in the yard with little or no training is asking for trouble.
Hey Chet —I know you didn’t mean to stir up such anger in people! Statistics very so much depending on who compiles them….just like the inaccurate politcal polls at times!—That’s what blogs are for—no harm no fowl!
I have two pit bulls and a German Sheppard, the bulls are amorous and loving while the Sheppard is a bit moody, the bulls love to be pitted and loved all the time while the Sheppard likes to play ball end Frisbee and not to be hugged or pitted, the bulls have never nipped any one while the Sheppard had nipped someone after giving a warnings of leave me alone or else, the thing is that dogs have their own character and they all behave in a different manner, my pit bull Liza is a type of dog that likes kids and kind of protects them, my other pit bull Lucky, is the type of dog that does not care too much for kids, kid of annoys him loud noises and love quite times with the owners, Max in the other hand loves to sleep on the bed when nobody is on it, as soon as you get on bed he jumps of it and goes to his own bed.
The thins is that even though max the Sheppard has nipped some he did not have the intentions of harming that person, hi only was telling him don bother me I’m tired and don’t want to be pitted or molested, my dogs ware trained by an officer of the army who happens to have German Sheppard’s three of them and they also have shown the same characteristics. Thou are not because your dog is pit bull or a Sheppard that are bad, is only the way you bring your dogs to behave. Love them and care for them in the way each breed needs to treated, as I said not all breeds are the same.
My brother in law had 2 pits. A male and a female. They were both spoiled rotten in thier upbringing, and he was very carefull not to use physical dicipline with either of them. When they aged, ( about 5-6 years old) the female started to show signs of aggression, and continued on to bite on 3 different occassions. The male still lives with him and is a big suck. The 3 cats that also live there beat him up. Therefore I do believe it has a bit to do with how they are raised , but like children raised by the same parent, they develope their own personalities. The responsibility is to the owner to recognise aggressive behaviour in a pup and nip it in the butt or suffer ther law suit no matter what the breed.
Never had space in the last posting –just to say I was strongly considering buying your stuff,now,I too will be adding your site to the Junk mail. Cheers been good to know you.
Pitbulls are great dogs they don’t kill someone every 3 weeks
David Reply:August 29th, 2011 at 11:41 am
“Bite” on this:
A 2000 report issued by the Center for Disease and Control (CDC) reviewed a 20-year period to determine the types of dog breeds most responsible for U.S. dog bite fatalities.
During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs were involved in 238 human dog bite related fatalities during the past 20 years. Pit bulls and rottweilers were involved in over half of these fatalities and from 1997 to 1998 were involved in 67%.
Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada,
September 1982 to June 25, 2010
By compiling U.S. and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2010, Merritt Clifton, editor of ANIMAL PEOPLE, shows the breeds most responsible for serious injury and death.
The combination of pit bulls, rottweilers, presa canarios, and their mixes:
80% of attacks that induce bodily harm
70% of attacks to children
83% of attack to adults
69% of attacks that result in fatalities
75% that result in maiming
Even if the pit bull category was “split three ways,” attacks by pit bulls and their closest relatives would still outnumber attacks by any other breed.
Pit bulls are noteworthy for attacking adults almost as frequently as children, a characteristic not shared by any other breed.
The only reason for this occurring is because Pit Bulls lack correction, training, time and love. Any dog breed can do as much damage as a Pit Bull. Why complain about Pit Bulls when others are actually devoting there time and going out there to help and make a stand for them. If they are so bad, Then why are so many people making a stand? It’s because they know the real truth behind it all. Pit Bulls don’t want to live in the past, They want to live where there is a good future for them.
Ok so Pitbulls ‘seem’ to be the ones who attack/bite more, and to all of those loving, caring, respectful pitbull owners out there, sorry but your dog ahs been tarred with the same brush. Unfortunately what I generally see in Pitbull owners are the idiots who just want a ‘tougher’ dog than anyone elses. They often don’t train, respect or use positive reinforcement training – if any training at all. Personally I don’t like pitbulls, but that may be due to my ignorance after knowing some of the poor dogs stupid owners. AGAIN, this is NOT directed at those owners who love, train and truly respect their Pitbull and its capabilities and needs.
I own a Doberman Pinscher and most people cross to the other side of the road when I walk her because Dobermans are ‘vicious’. The silly part is I walk both of my dogs together and my other dog is a Shetland Sheepdog. He is small enough to walk under the Doberman. They get along great! It’s not the dog or the breed, it’s the irresponsible owners who don’t train, exercise, interact with, and restrain their dogs.
Start looking at the conditions that any dog lives in, are trained under and what the owner does for/with their dog. And let’s not forget how many humans grow up and kill someone – but we can’t just have them put down or hold their parents responsible. MAybe the answer is a licence and suitability test of the potential owner of ANY dog.
I, too, am disappointed in the posting of the information here. One website, as has already been pointed out, is a “trolling” website for lawyers who specialize in dog bites. Another (dogsbite.org) was founded, it says, by a Seattle woman who was attacked by a “leashed pit bull” for 5 seconds, blah, blah, blah.
These are highly biased sites.
The CDC site is pretty good, and the link THEY have to the American Veterinary Medical Association report on dog bites has a GREAT paragraph on its second page explaining, as they put it, “Dog bit statistics are not really statistics, and they do not give an accurate picture of dogs that bite.”
One has to consider, as has also been pointed out, that the notoriety given to pit bulls by the media has probably helped determine who would own such a dog. Macho types who “can handle a mean dog”, might do so, and might not tend to have much of a grasp on proper socialization of ANY dog. I have seen some originally pretty nice dogs of several breeds become more and more territorial and aggressive simply by being fenced in, in a small yard, without being taken on any walks- and I think that the “walk” is THE most important means of socializing (and exercising) a dog.
I think, Mr Womack, that you have made a big PR mistake in posting these terribly slanted stats and links.
It is alarming how ignorant some people can be regarding dog statistics and dog behaviour. There maybe many smaller dog breeds who frequently attack people and are more aggressive than a pitbull, BUT when they bite, they do not cause death or serious harm. However should a pitbull and to a lesser extend – a Rottweiler – attack, they seldom stop after an initial bite. They (Pitbull and rottweiler) will not stop until the victim is maimed or killed. Please vist this site: http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-statistics-fatalities.htm to find the statistics that everyone is bickering about.
Your Pitbull may have shown no aggressive trait, but should it one day have a bad day, it is going to be a BAD DAY.
WOW, everyone attacks the stats, why not attach the fact that there are bad pet owners. A dog needs good training, and to be socialized just like humans all do. If we look to the real problem, some persons just should not have these dogs or infact any dog. Dogs need discipline, luv, skills, socialization, and boundries that most bad dog owners can not give or refuse to give them. As I have always scene in statistics the cockspaniel was the dog that bites most, that also does not mean every cocker bites. I have an American Bulldog and in my research of the breed I chose, I needed to raise her different from my others dogs I have had in the past. We have met many great dogs and some no great dogs, including Pitbulls that were great and some not so (including rehabilitated Pitbulls that we so great). I would like to see the stats on bad dog owners and their training of bad these biters. Personally I have never met a bad dog, only bad owners( it shows even at the dog parks).
jeremy Reply:October 16th, 2011 at 5:18 am
Dan i couldnt agree more mate.
This ignorant nonsense is is fearmongering* at it’s reprehensible best.
MONGER* 2. A person promoting something undesirable or discreditable. Often used in combination: a scandalmonger; a warmonger.
To couch this garbage in the context of “I have no intention of calling out a specific breed of dog as dangerous” is shamefully ignorant.
Lies, dammed lies and statistics people.
Let’s put some of these “alarming” statistics in context, which is how most rational people operate typically : From the CDC ( The only reputable source of the three you cite, BTW. As numerous other posters have said: do your homework on “Dogs bite.org” and “Dog bite law center”, please. To even cite those two derivative “.orgs” in the same context as the CDC is absurd. )
“Annually, there is one dog bite-related fatality for every 10 million human beings, and every 2.5 million dogs.”
* Yawn * Guess that doesn’t sell “bleeds it leads” media or…dog training services as effectively. And that is a shame, because you are obviously an accomplished trainer and don’t need to resort to scare tactics that only serve to distract from the ostensible reason that we who live and work with dogs do so: to foster, enable and support the human-animal bond.
And as per the General Mill’s vs. insurance company numbers? Are you kidding me? General Mills had a record level fiscal year in 2010 with capital expenditures of $649 million paying $729 million in shareholder dividends alone as well as repurchasing 32 million shares of common stock. Um, ORDERS of magnitude different, but hey! we got the information ( and probably the splashy graphic!) from… dogs bite.org? Somebody needs to learn how to read an annual report.
I could go on, but suffice to say:
I don’t want to be bitten by a dog. Hell I don’t even want to be slobbered on. No one should be mauled, by a dog, or a tiger (see SF zoo) or for that matter a motorized thresher. Gory deaths suck. But hyperventilating about dangerous breeds and alarming statistics doesn’t make anyone safer. What does? Intelligent discourse, training, education and communities uniting to solve real problems instead of media constructs.
In short, not a blog post to be proud of.
For further reading about statistics, context, feeling and intellect: consider Steven Jay Gould’s “The Median Isn’t the Message”
I HATE pitbulls. I have 2 georgous alaskan malamutes and my neighbor has a pitbull that thinks it can attack my dogs when my dog is not even in that dogs yard. and it always tries to hurt my dog and my husband went out and bought me a tazer so the next time i see that dog trying to hurt my dog i am going to taze the hell out of him… i think pit bulls should be banned.
I have not read all the post as I find some post ill informed. All Dogs from the largest to smallest are capable of bitting. When a large dog bites it will do more damage that a small one. Boxers are breed that were breed for bull baiting so using that argument againest pit bulls is not reasonable. Our family has 2 Pits, two boxers and a Rotwieller. All dogs are socialized and get along well together. I would under no circumstaces leave anyone alone with a child. All dogs can at anytime have thier doing what comes naturally show up. Only good traing training can keep these in check.
Not all people make good pet owners kind of like not all people should be parents. Only responsible and accountable people are good pet owners, parents or drivers ect.
Before I retired I worked as a paramedic. I have seen pit attacks and can say all were committed by dogs trained to fight. I have seen more bite by German Sheppards all because thet responded to people running away naturally chasing pray.
We need to respond to the needs of our dog not all can be let to run off leash.
Even though Pit Bulls are now Banned in the UK thet were once the choice for a loving family pet but irresposible people have changed that.
Dogs shown love and trained properly will be a family member no matter the breed.
that way a dog is a dog. How a dog would protect a house or property -keep the bad guys away?Firsts step was to domesticate the dog from a wolf next is to transform him into a cat and from a cat maybe into a rabbit and so on.In a public place different story.
with the worry on what dogs are good and what one are bad.In these times and cost why not use a web site like this to help each other train a misbehaved dog . the cost for trainers and food and training tool are out of this world. come together for the sake of all breeds!
You really should check your resources and your facts before you post inflammatory statistics as fact.
The facts are this – the CDC has stopped collecting breed information on dog bite reports because the source of said information is often times wrong. The VICTIM was the source of the information and John Q. Public can’t tell a pit bull from a buffalo. Pit bulls are “dangerous” so if a medium sized, powerfully built dog bites you it must be a pit bull.
Dogbitelaw.org is a notoriously anti-pit bull site. They use the Merritt Clifton “study” for their information. Mr. Clifton reached his findings by reading the newspaper!! Every fact he has came from newspaper headlines. I am sure that everybody is aware of how accurate the press can be. After all, “Pit bull kills child” sure sells more papers then “Child attacked and killed by family labrador.”
jeremy Reply:October 14th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Its entirely the owner’s training that determines a dogs attitude, dogs love to please and are very loyal (hence man’s best friend) and if the owner encourages the wrong behavior the dog will do it again and again because in its eyes it pleasing its owner, i myself have dogs, hunting dogs in fact a Bull Mastiff cross and a pure bread Bull Arab and they are the most well mannered dogs u will ever meet. sure if they see a pig or u go into their yard at night without me they will tare u or the pig to shreds, but that’s because that’s what i have trained them to do. i have a niece and 2 nephews 2 of them are 5 and the other is 1. i trust my dogs completely around them and can without a second thought allow my 1 year old nephew to hand feed my Bull Mastiff cross or my Bull Arab because i have taught them both manners and they know to be gentle around kids and not to snatch when being fed. People say pig dogs are vicious trained to kill animals? so how come when i simple tell my dogs ‘enough release’ they both let go of the pig and lay down in the grass wagging their tails? on the other side of things, yes some dogs are more aggressive/territorial then others however once again if all comes down to the owners training as to what kind of dog they grow into. i think the main problem is people buy dogs for either the wrong reasons or dogs they don’t know how to or don’t have the time to train. I also have mates who run Pit Bulls and Pit Bull crosses as hunting dogs and they are just as well mannered as my dogs. so basicly my point being if the dog or any ‘vicious breed’ dog is infact so vicious then why can one who has been trained to hunt and attack be so disciplined and well mannered? Its simple its all in how u bring up your dog.
Minette Reply:October 14th, 2011 at 8:21 am
This is not necessarily true! Sometimes good people get aggressive dogs!
jeremy Reply:October 16th, 2011 at 5:13 am
ummm i believe i said that? ‘yes some dogs are more aggressive/territorial then others’ i also said some people get dogs that they dont know how or dont have the time to train them properly. no dog is a bad dog. its how they are raised which makes the difference. my Mastiff Cross is a beautiful calm mannered dog and yet one of her sisters from the very same litter that grew up only a stones throw away from where she did is the complete opposite. its aggressive towards people doesnt do what its told and is basically just a pain. the only difference in the dogs is the owners, they both grew up in the same town, ate the same food. did the same things etc. (i know all this because i know the bloke who owns her). any dog can be aggressive and any dog can misbehave. because any person can train one to act this way, its simple just dnt raise them properly. if i dog is raised and trained right it will do anything its told. the problem is most people are to lazy, they like the idea of owning a dog however they dont seem to like the idea of training them and the novelty wears off quickly, take a golden retriever or Labrador for example, they are brilliant smart dogs and make excellent guide dogs. but have u ever scene one that wasnt trained properly? have u scene how strict the guidelines are to raise a dog of this stature? if not trained properly these dogs can be just as bad as they are good. dogs are no differnt then kids, if u let them run wild and misbehave they will continue this as life progresses and gradually lead to worse things. but if i child is raised right it will grow to become a respectable young man/women. the same goes for dogs.
ryan Reply:February 2nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
bullmastiffs are not hunting dogs my friend! You must have some other breed…
I have grown up with pit bulls and bull terriers my hole child hood life never thinking once they are violent dogs until this day when my yorkie was attcked by one, the bull terrier snapped his neck and then held onto his throat while smuthering the life out of my little yorkie, he never stood a chance, he was only 2years young so he still had his hole life ahead of him that is why im so angry at what happened. I did a little research and found that bit bulls and bull terriers have the brain capacity of a seven year old child and listen like one too, so once they have attacked another dog or child”tasted innocent blood” they will keep on doing it no matter what training is given to them. So my personal opinion is that once they have bitten another dog or child they should be put to death immediately or as the owner of a smaller dog i would get my 38special and plug the dog myself.
GusS Reply:December 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 pm
My wife and our schnauzer/terrier mix were attacked by an unchained pit bull today. The attack was totaly unprovoked nor was any warning given by the dog. My wife and dog were walking on the opposite side of the street from the pit bulls’ home. It came out the front door at full speed and went straight for our dog.
Fortunately, my wife had a golf club with her and was able to slow the dog down some what. The pit ended up knocking my wife down and had our dog in its mouth shaking it when it’s owner finally appeared and helped beat the pit until it released my dog and the pit’s owner could drag the dog back inside.
Dogs like that should be put down…and maybe their owners too.
Between 2005-2011 Pitbulls or Pit mixes were responsible for 127 out of 213 american fatalities.
Of the 8 pet/owner fatalities 7 were pitbulls or pit mixes.
In 2011 there was 31 american dog related fatalities – 22 were pits or pit mixes.
Pitbulls make up less then 5% of the total american dog population.
I am a breed advocate of ALL breeds including Pits, I know they can be great dogs and family members.
That said all this arguing is mostly created by our emotions (understandably), however things are never going to get better for this breed if people continue to react with their hearts and not their heads.
We, the humans can change things, but we need to look at the facts and figure out why what is happening is and how we can fix it….. And I mean legitimately not by a “stupid” breed specific legislation that does not work for anyone – the dog, the owner, or the community!
First step AGREEING there is a problem, second step AGREEING on a proper solution.
(facts from dogsbite.org)
This pitbull thing is rediculous where are these numbers comming from ? I have always had pitties and I have been around them for ever nothing will ever make me believe that those numbers are true there isnt a bad bone in a dog till it is train and raised agressivly!
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